Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:39 pm
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Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 9:28 pm
king of the shed
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Enfield Exile wrote:I thought The Shed started to go downhill from about about the second year of our return to SL - circa 1998. In the stand we used to have some amusing fans who would make us laugh when we were playing poorly by coming up with some smart comment, we would get excited by scoring a try even if we were getting hammered and it was a friendly place to be. Maybe I am being a tad misty-eyed but I preferred the atmosphere and feel of the place when we were in the lower leagues than what it has been like since c1998.
To be fair mate 2006 was pretty good but maybe that was because for most of it we had a product to watch!
Enfield Exile wrote:EDIT I actually feel sorry for the Salford fans who didn't watch us from The Shed in the late 80s and 90's. The Shed was a great place to be. I have been lucky enough to be some great stadiums and watch some big events in football, RL, cricket and tennis. Nothing compares IMO to many of the occasions I had in The Shed at that time, even when we got beat. Great days
Amen to that!
Jim Jalfrezi wrote: Back on topic, I'm a bit old for singing at games, but it's a real pity that very little noise now comes from the shed. As everyone says, it used to be electric, noisy, hostile (in a decent way), and entertaining. I think everyone is just a little fed up of watching whichever team we assemble invariably get outplayed
Maybe therein lies the problem mate, lets face it of us that have been knocking around the shed since those halcyon days of the late 80's early 90's are now clearly not as young and (hungry) enthusiastic as we once were and maybe some of the younger element don't share our philosophy and methods of supporting
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Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 10:29 pm
tall red
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Red Preacher wrote:Noisy, yes, louts, no. Passionate, yes, offensive, no. I'm sure they'll enjoy our company and appreciate that we are different from the aformentioned moronic, simpleton, borderline racist, nouveaux hooligans currently dominating the left side. Or, we could always stay where we are and continue to endure miserable Friday nights at Salford... We certainly can't move them and direct action would result in violence which I'm pretty adament none of us want.
Well i have stood, left hand of the shed for nearly 20 yrs, so what you tryin to say?, i have introduced loads of fans to our great club over the years and they stand left of the shed aswell. At salford over the last three years there has been a right side of the shed, and a left hand of the shed, ( forget about the pr**ks that stand at the bottom that we all know about 10 at the most ) if the left hand sing the right side dont sing, and vice versa. We have all got to sing from the same hyme sheet, or the shed is dead, this was discused last year, everyone said yeah we will all sing together , but guess what the left sang and the right didnt, and the right sang and the left didnt. I have tryed startin songs over the last few years, and the left side of the shed will sing, but the right will mostly stay quiet. Please dont blame a few numptys at the front of the shed, as on friday night most of the shed was booin the team and infront of the willows, there is a left and right devide, until this is sorted the shed will never bee the same again, yes i remember the days of great( not the team ) but the fans, singing lets all have a disco, when we are gettin hammered, and that was what got me hooked on the club, again not the on field performance. I hope that the shed re-unite as one for the great club we know, but it was all said last year, and look at us now.
Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:03 pm
Red Preacher
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Joined: Feb 01 2005 Posts: 2481 Location: Mongtown
What I'm trying to say tall red is that there is a strong element of idiots, dominating the shed with behaviour that is contrary to the behaviour of the left side of the shed of old. They really do spoil Friday night at the Willows for many of us. I must pick you up on a minor detail. I personally haven't laid blame at anyone's door for booing let alone the numpties. It's the rest of their behaviour that grates with me. Both home and away they show the club and the fans up but both seem fairly reluctant to do anything with them. I personally want the atmosphere back and the joy of being a Salford fan to return. We don't seem to be able to generate this in the left side any more and I believe a small group is hugely influential in this. Going to Salford was the highlight of my week, every week, no matter how well we were playing. But now, it's become an obligation. A chore. An effort. The magic has gone. But, I believe it can come back if we collectively make it so.
Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:21 pm
king of the shed
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Joined: Aug 29 2002 Posts: 9088 Location: Heart, Mind, Body & Soul IN Salford
tall red wrote:Well i have stood, left hand of the shed for nearly 20 yrs, so what you tryin to say?, i have introduced loads of fans to our great club over the years and they stand left of the shed aswell. At salford over the last three years there has been a right side of the shed, and a left hand of the shed, ( forget about the pr**ks that stand at the bottom that we all know about 10 at the most ) if the left hand sing the right side dont sing, and vice versa. We have all got to sing from the same hyme sheet, or the shed is dead, this was discused last year, everyone said yeah we will all sing together , but guess what the left sang and the right didnt, and the right sang and the left didnt. I have tryed startin songs over the last few years, and the left side of the shed will sing, but the right will mostly stay quiet. Please dont blame a few numptys at the front of the shed, as on friday night most of the shed was booin the team and infront of the willows, there is a left and right devide, until this is sorted the shed will never bee the same again, yes i remember the days of great( not the team ) but the fans, singing lets all have a disco, when we are gettin hammered, and that was what got me hooked on the club, again not the on field performance. I hope that the shed re-unite as one for the great club we know, but it was all said last year, and look at us now.
All I will say is that it's not just about singing it's about the right song at the right time. I stand in between the left and right factions these days and I must say that many a time the left side has started a song but at the wrong time when the feeling isn't there from the majority or the wrong kind of song (this may all sound a bit far fetched but believe me its true) the worst of which tend to be if you all hate scousers/Yorkshire/Leeds delete as applicable.
I seen to recall back in the 80's there was a hierarchy (of a sort) in the singing section and it was kind of a graduation to get to the point you were accepted to start songs off as if you'd done your apprenticeship now any old Thomas, Richard or Harry can start them without thinking about it before they do!!!!
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Founding member of the "Neil Baker is/was/always will be God" Supporters Club (Est. 1985) & still The official No1 (Salford based) Kevin 'Buddha' McGuinness - Supporter!
Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:34 pm
The optimist
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king of the shed wrote:I seen to recall back in the 80's there was a hierarchy (of a sort) in the singing section and it was kind of a graduation to get to the point you were accepted to start songs off as if you'd done your apprenticeship now any old Thomas, Richard or Harry can start them without thinking about it before they do!!!!
I agree with what your saying their fella, but you have to give the youth a chance, im a big big believer that you back them and they will back you, everyone hates starting a song and nobody follows them (ive been there a fair few times and its one of the lonelys places but its like riding a wave you get back on the board and ride the next one), there is a kid (well a teen) who stands behind me and last season and he tried to start the viking song and it died on it booty, 10 mins later he had a go and it took off, he was buzzin then for the rest of the game. He was there again Friday this time with 5 of his mates all dead keen thats where the future is.
king of the shed wrote:Maybe therein lies the problem mate, lets face it of us that have been knocking around the shed since those halcyon days of the late 80's early 90's are now clearly not as young and (hungry) enthusiastic as we once were and maybe some of the younger element don't share our philosophy and methods of supporting
Its all about looking cool rather than jumping around like a loon
Red Preacher wrote:.Going to Salford was the highlight of my week, every week, no matter how well we were playing. But now, it's become an obligation. A chore. An effort. The magic has gone. But, I believe it can come back if we collectively make it so.
Do you live in my head? i was thinking the exact thing today Perhaps me personally i take watching salford too seriously these days thinking its all about the result and being optimistic because about where we are going because we need to keep playing at superleague level to compete against other superleague crowds, i always thought us the salford supporters raised our game when in superleague but it doesnt seem to happen as much these days it seems to me as if we are all waiting for somthing to happen to light the blue touch paper rather than getting a match ourselves and making it happen ourselves.
Before it was all about the adventure and the fun id have with my mates regardless of the result, we'd all have a drink, we'd all usually make fools out of ourselves at one point but we all laughed with each other and nobody laughed at anyone else expense regardless of if they were numpties or what, perhaps its the innersence of youth (que young team hungry team bla bla bla ) at the time id say Supporting salford though that time in my life definately made me a better person and i woudnt change it for the world.
I think im going to chance my stance on my salford viewing, as long as im having fun the result doesnt bother me, as long as ive got a smile on my face and a song in my heart ill go home after everygame a happy man, so dont bother asking if we are going to win because if you think about losing you've probably already lost
Its about throwing away all the inabitions and getting behind the team its not rocket science
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Post subject: Re: 15 mins into the first home game
Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:41 pm
Red Preacher
Club Coach
Joined: Feb 01 2005 Posts: 2481 Location: Mongtown
king of the shed wrote:All I will say is that it's not just about singing it's about the right song at the right time. I stand in between the left and right factions these days and I must say that many a time the left side has started a song but at the wrong time when the feeling isn't there from the majority or the wrong kind of song (this may all sound a bit far fetched but believe me its true) the worst of which tend to be if you all hate scousers/Yorkshire/Leeds delete as applicable.
I seen to recall back in the 80's there was a hierarchy (of a sort) in the singing section and it was kind of a graduation to get to the point you were accepted to start songs off as if you'd done your apprenticeship now any old Thomas, Richard or Harry can start them without thinking about it before they do!!!!
Amen to that Parky... Do you believe this can be the way things are done again?
And Bobby, I love your undiminishing passion fella!
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