Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:09 am
Bigpev
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Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 6769 Location: Lording it up in Wardley
You seem to be forgetting that the majority of housing in Salford is social housing provided by the state, how are private landlords responsible for the social housing slums in Salford or elsewhere in the country?
If payment wasn't pai direct, the tenants would spend the money themselves and end up in arrears then be out on the street..............I see adverts for private rented housing all the time and an awful lot say no DSS.
The majority of houses that lost value were privately owned now surely you can see that, in Seedley and Langworthy there only 5% council houses, the rest privately owned. A certain Social Landlord moved into the area in the early 90's and took in tenants who local concils had kicked out. These were mostly problem families, and they brought their problems with thme hence the decline, other private landlords also then moved in and did the same because of the ease at getting rent. Your last comment refers to today where private landlords do not want the problem of having to get the rent of tenants. I lived and worked in Seedley and Langworthy through all this so I know what went on in fact I had a massive dossier on it and lost count of the number of "property developers" who moved into the area in the mid to late 90's with the resulting degeneration effect. Read Andrew Marr's the Making of Britain with regards inflation.
To the Ground, Salford is not as deprived as it once once was, look at the Quays for the developments and Media City, the Council also invested £20m in the BBC Phil.
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Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:32 am
Scanners
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Joined: Apr 07 2010 Posts: 168
Bigpev wrote:You seem to be forgetting that the majority of housing in Salford is social housing provided by the state, how are private landlords responsible for the social housing slums in Salford or elsewhere in the country?
If payment wasn't pai direct, the tenants would spend the money themselves and end up in arrears then be out on the street..............I see adverts for private rented housing all the time and an awful lot say no DSS.
The majority of houses that lost value were privately owned now surely you can see that, in Seedley and Langworthy there only 5% council houses, the rest privately owned. A certain Social Landlord moved into the area in the early 90's and took in tenants who local concils had kicked out. These were mostly problem families, and they brought their problems with thme hence the decline, other private landlords also then moved in and did the same because of the ease at getting rent. Your last comment refers to today where private landlords do not want the problem of having to get the rent of tenants. I lived and worked in Seedley and Langworthy through all this so I know what went on in fact I had a massive dossier on it and lost count of the number of "property developers" who moved into the area in the mid to late 90's with the resulting degeneration effect. Read Andrew Marr's the Making of Britain with regards inflation.
To the Ground, Salford is not as deprived as it once once was, look at the Quays for the developments and Media City, the Council also invested £20m in the BBC Phil.
Which social landlord was this? If the local authority kicked them out, someone had to provide for them. Surely if what happened is as you say it was just a matter of displacing these problem families from social housing to private landlords? How does what a Labour Salford Council does lie at the door of the Tories?
Ready to accpet your claims on inflation are wildly inaccurate?
Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:20 pm
lukicj
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Joined: Feb 01 2007 Posts: 803 Location: Spending way too much time in Bradford!
Scammers on gareth thomas: "People need to see this for what it was, a bit of ribbing." Only messing, i know that your posts were about hypocrisy really
Anywayyyyyyy... If the tories get into power, which unfortuately seems very likely they say that they will give people back the power!!! Oh how wonderful and enpowered we will all feel. So Mr Camerong will let the people of Salford have their stadium if they want it... He's pratically confirmed that it will go ahead.
Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:55 pm
Scanners
Player Coach
Joined: Apr 07 2010 Posts: 168
lukicj wrote:Scammers on gareth thomas: "People need to see this for what it was, a bit of ribbing." Only messing, i know that your posts were about hypocrisy really
Anywayyyyyyy... If the tories get into power, which unfortuately seems very likely they say that they will give people back the power!!! Oh how wonderful and enpowered we will all feel. So Mr Camerong will let the people of Salford have their stadium if they want it... He's pratically confirmed that it will go ahead.
Or thats the way i see it
haha
I'll ask you again to point out where I said it was OK? i think you will find I also said that abuse is abuse, no matter why fans dish it out or what they say and that it should all be condemned.
Rolling back the State is the way to go. Unfortunately for Salford Reds if public spending is cut, I think that the stadium will be under threat. It's not exactly a critical project is it, other than for the club. If the club is not attractive enough to private investors it should re-assess it's position and compete at a level it can afford to sustain.
Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:26 pm
lukicj
Player Coach
Joined: Feb 01 2007 Posts: 803 Location: Spending way too much time in Bradford!
Yes, the Stadium IS a critical project as without the stadium Peel are not allowed to develop that area. Please can someone correct me if i am wrong but I believe this was one of the clauses with the developement of the Barton area?
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