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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:09 am 
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You seem to be forgetting that the majority of housing in Salford is social housing provided by the state, how are private landlords responsible for the social housing slums in Salford or elsewhere in the country?

If payment wasn't pai direct, the tenants would spend the money themselves and end up in arrears then be out on the street..............I see adverts for private rented housing all the time and an awful lot say no DSS.


The majority of houses that lost value were privately owned now surely you can see that, in Seedley and Langworthy there only 5% council houses, the rest privately owned. A certain Social Landlord moved into the area in the early 90's and took in tenants who local concils had kicked out. These were mostly problem families, and they brought their problems with thme hence the decline, other private landlords also then moved in and did the same because of the ease at getting rent.
Your last comment refers to today where private landlords do not want the problem of having to get the rent of tenants. I lived and worked in Seedley and Langworthy through all this so I know what went on in fact I had a massive dossier on it and lost count of the number of "property developers" who moved into the area in the mid to late 90's with the resulting degeneration effect.
Read Andrew Marr's the Making of Britain with regards inflation.

To the Ground, Salford is not as deprived as it once once was, look at the Quays for the developments and Media City, the Council also invested £20m in the BBC Phil.






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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:10 am 
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Scanners wrote:The free market regulates price and usage levels far better than any state control. Free market rules.


Cor, you had me going, there! Until you came out with that vintage comic gem I thought you were being serious.






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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:22 am 
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Scanners is the same clown who thinks its fine to shout homophobic abuse at gay players (Gareth Thomas).

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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:32 am 
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Bigpev wrote:You seem to be forgetting that the majority of housing in Salford is social housing provided by the state, how are private landlords responsible for the social housing slums in Salford or elsewhere in the country?

If payment wasn't pai direct, the tenants would spend the money themselves and end up in arrears then be out on the street..............I see adverts for private rented housing all the time and an awful lot say no DSS.


The majority of houses that lost value were privately owned now surely you can see that, in Seedley and Langworthy there only 5% council houses, the rest privately owned. A certain Social Landlord moved into the area in the early 90's and took in tenants who local concils had kicked out. These were mostly problem families, and they brought their problems with thme hence the decline, other private landlords also then moved in and did the same because of the ease at getting rent.
Your last comment refers to today where private landlords do not want the problem of having to get the rent of tenants. I lived and worked in Seedley and Langworthy through all this so I know what went on in fact I had a massive dossier on it and lost count of the number of "property developers" who moved into the area in the mid to late 90's with the resulting degeneration effect.
Read Andrew Marr's the Making of Britain with regards inflation.

To the Ground, Salford is not as deprived as it once once was, look at the Quays for the developments and Media City, the Council also invested £20m in the BBC Phil.


Which social landlord was this? If the local authority kicked them out, someone had to provide for them. Surely if what happened is as you say it was just a matter of displacing these problem families from social housing to private landlords? How does what a Labour Salford Council does lie at the door of the Tories?

Ready to accpet your claims on inflation are wildly inaccurate?

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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:35 am 
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I could have sworn this was a Rugby League forum.....I must be mistaken.






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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:36 am 
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lukicj wrote:Scanners is the same clown who thinks its fine to shout homophobic abuse at gay players (Gareth Thomas).

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Same old tories,
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Can I just pull you up on that one. Please feel free to point to anywhere I have said the abuse shouted at Graeth Thomas was OK?

If you are going to lie, don't make it such an obvious whopper. no comments on the subjects being discussed then?

What do you think will be the possible effect of a change of government on Salford Council spending plans re the stadium?

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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:20 pm 
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Scammers on gareth thomas:
"People need to see this for what it was, a bit of ribbing."
:SUBMISSION: Only messing, i know that your posts were about hypocrisy really

Anywayyyyyyy... If the tories get into power, which unfortuately seems very likely they say that they will give people back the power!!! Oh how wonderful and enpowered we will all feel. So Mr Camerong will let the people of Salford have their stadium if they want it... He's pratically confirmed that it will go ahead.

Or thats the way i see it :PIMP:

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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:55 pm 
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lukicj wrote:Scammers on gareth thomas:
"People need to see this for what it was, a bit of ribbing."
:SUBMISSION: Only messing, i know that your posts were about hypocrisy really

Anywayyyyyyy... If the tories get into power, which unfortuately seems very likely they say that they will give people back the power!!! Oh how wonderful and enpowered we will all feel. So Mr Camerong will let the people of Salford have their stadium if they want it... He's pratically confirmed that it will go ahead.

Or thats the way i see it :PIMP:

haha


I'll ask you again to point out where I said it was OK? i think you will find I also said that abuse is abuse, no matter why fans dish it out or what they say and that it should all be condemned.

Rolling back the State is the way to go. Unfortunately for Salford Reds if public spending is cut, I think that the stadium will be under threat. It's not exactly a critical project is it, other than for the club. If the club is not attractive enough to private investors it should re-assess it's position and compete at a level it can afford to sustain.

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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:15 pm 
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whitters wrote:I could have sworn this was a Rugby League forum.....I must be mistaken.


To be fair the topic did start with concerns about the election influencing fate of the new stadium.

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 Post subject: Re: depending on the may 6th decision
PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:26 pm 
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Yes, the Stadium IS a critical project as without the stadium Peel are not allowed to develop that area.
Please can someone correct me if i am wrong but I believe this was one of the clauses with the developement of the Barton area?

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