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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:43 pm 
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I agree with most fans assessments, did not expect to get a result, went more in hope, pleased with the new signing & although Broughton was exposed early on, he stuck to his task well, alway coming inside to take the ball & not letting his head drop.
If we have a weakness this year I think it will be in the forwards & this was exposed yesterday.
I too take some positives from the game! I thought after the poor start we battled back into the game & worked hard throughout not letting our heads drop at anytime.
Finally although the ref gave some strange decisions I thought our kicking game was the reason for us being on the back foot, they pinned us back by finding touch every time with there kicks, which kept us pinned in our half for most of the second half, while our kicks were straight into there hands everytime, enabling them to obtain good field positions & punish us.

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One tactical ploy which surprised me was not to counter Dobson. Bit like Andy Greg - he can only pass well one way and that is to his right. Guess where all the tries came? Really should have addressed the problem at HT with a marker coming from left side to block the path to the wings.

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Bigpev wrote:GCSE results don't lie, see you can't even count they broadcast both of Fox's tries and the passes were not over the top but along a line which unless the lines on the pitch are not parallel (look that up) and being in Hull may not be, see GCSE results tables 2008, 2009, but the passes sent the balls in a forward direction ie they were closer to the try line when the ball was caught than when the ball was passed.

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Bigpev wrote:GCSE results don't lie, see you can't even count they broadcast both of Fox's tries and the passes were not over the top but along a line which unless the lines on the pitch are not parallel (look that up) and being in Hull may not be, see GCSE results tables 2008, 2009, but the passes sent the balls in a forward direction ie they were closer to the try line when the ball was caught than when the ball was passed.


You see, your post is riddled with schoolboy errors. Firstly, you assume I took GCSE's, which I didn't - good old fashioned O Levels & A Levels were my school diet. Secondly, as my learned colleague has pointed out, on SSN, Rovers 2nd, 4th & 5th tries were broadcast on Sunday night. Having since seen (via the SL website) all the tries, I can confirm that they were all fine and you need to understand the definition of a forward pass. Finally, as I'm not from Hull, the last 2 years education league tables mean naff all to me.

No need for me to look up the definition of parallel - as a Chartered Engineer, I don't need to.

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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote:You see, your post is riddled with schoolboy errors. Firstly, you assume I took GCSE's, which I didn't - good old fashioned O Levels & A Levels were my school diet. Secondly, as my learned colleague has pointed out, on SSN, Rovers 2nd, 4th & 5th tries were broadcast on Sunday night. Having since seen (via the SL website) all the tries, I can confirm that they were all fine and you need to understand the definition of a forward pass. Finally, as I'm not from Hull, the last 2 years education league tables mean naff all to me.

No need for me to look up the definition of parallel - as a Chartered Engineer, I don't need to.


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The Goroka Gene-ius wrote: you need to understand the definition of a forward pass. .


No I actually gave the description, the "momentum rule" is an invention of Sky.

Yes not Both Fox's so stand corrected but both forward.

Plus I am old School O and A levels but I won't bore you with my Job.






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Bigpev wrote:No I actually gave the description, the "momentum rule" is an invention of Sky.....


Actually BigPev, not so - From Note 1 "Direction of Pass" in Section 10 "Knock-On and Foward Pass" of the Rugby Laws Book from the RFL website:

Direction of Pass 1. The direction of a pass is relative to the player making it and not to the actual path relative to the ground. A player running
towards his opponents’ goal line may throw the ball towards
a colleague who is behind him but because of the thrower’s
own momentum the ball travels forward relative to the
ground. This is not a forward pass as the thrower has not
passed the ball forward in relation to himself. This is
particularly noticeable when a running player makes a high,
lobbed pass.

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Thinking back to the game on sunday i thought we were competative throughtout, the only three problems we had were our 1st 10 minutes Hull KR came out fast ( as i expected them to do with our youthful team) and blew us out of the water, i dont think we could have done anything about it and im sure they will learn from the experience.

My second problem would be our left hand side defence, Broughton was caughtout twice coming in and leaving his opposite number open to score easy tries, is it a communicaton thing? is it a confidence thing? i dunno, after a while it seemed that side of the field got organised and we looked a little better but when leaned on we caved in on that side of the field a bit too easy, its till early door and im sure they try and solve the problem this week.

I dont think you can do anthing about the game breaking try rebounding of Sibbits head straight into the arms of a hull Kr player to score, some you win some you dont in that respect.

I also thought Mcrae left alker on the field for too long during the game all the pre-season matches he has given him 20 minutes then smith has come on a started pulling the strings for 40 mins , soon as the real season starts he keeps Alker on for 30 mins then gives Smith a cameo role of 10 mins eather side of half time??

The positives i think were the way the players kept going it would have been easy to cave in and get smashed by 40+ point but give them credit they battled on and got stuck in, 1st game of the season enthusiam was there for all to see lets hope it continues though the season.

Individually i thought M Smith did very well, The Wizard had some nice touches and Fitzy looked good as well as the usual "8/10ers" again but its a team game so without everyone pulling their weight they arnt able to work the magic.






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