Joined: Jan 15 2005 Posts: 10390 Location: Worsley village don't you know.
Doubt we'll see Harris again, pity really as he has brought in many ideas that will stand the club in good stead, if we're honest he was the wrong man for the job being as young and inexperienced as he is - oddly the deficiences he has are the strengths that Sheens brings to the table.
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Joined: Apr 14 2007 Posts: 4314 Location: A couple of foot away
The team's attacking style under Harris was far too conservative for my liking. It was all about safety, territory and percentages with ball in hand but the effect was nullified by giving away numerous silly penalties. I think this is where the frustration has come from leading to many penalties and suspensions this year.
The players didn't seem to me to be enjoying playing to such a rigid system. All the best teams play on the front foot, they aren't afraid of taking a few chances and inevitably make a few errors. If you have footballers in your team you have to allow them to play what they see rather than just performing like pre-programmed robots. We just need to work hard on our defence and discipline to get to the level of the top teams, that's the main difference.
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Joined: Jan 26 2010 Posts: 1301 Location: Bonita , obviously
Harris did take us to the next level. Aggressive defence is unusual at Salford and he put that in place,which will stand us in good stead. The suspensions are easy to put at his door,coaching Hock to use his knees and clatter referees plus the demonising of Chase by Sky and the RFL. These weren't his fault. Hauraki has previous,thank goodness,and the rest were run of the mill. We were going well until losing both halves and,as yesterday showed,you can do without one but not both. Harris surely had his failings but he left us considerably better off than he found us,and I was a Noble fan.
Joined: Apr 14 2007 Posts: 4314 Location: A couple of foot away
Bonita Red wrote:Harris did take us to the next level. Aggressive defence is unusual at Salford and he put that in place,which will stand us in good stead. The suspensions are easy to put at his door,coaching Hock to use his knees and clatter referees plus the demonising of Chase by Sky and the RFL. These weren't his fault. Hauraki has previous,thank goodness,and the rest were run of the mill. We were going well until losing both halves and,as yesterday showed,you can do without one but not both. Harris surely had his failings but he left us considerably better off than he found us,and I was a Noble fan.
Yes Harris brought robustness, endurance and aggression to Salford but the team just lacked discipline and finesse. Although I appreciate a combination of losing Longy and the key absentees would of had a detrimental effect on our offence this year.
First accept sadness. Realise that without losing 70% of the time, winning wouldn't be such a relief.
Joined: Aug 17 2003 Posts: 17226 Location: South Wales
Bonita Red wrote:Harris did take us to the next level. Aggressive defence is unusual at Salford and he put that in place,which will stand us in good stead. The suspensions are easy to put at his door,coaching Hock to use his knees and clatter referees plus the demonising of Chase by Sky and the RFL. These weren't his fault. Hauraki has previous,thank goodness,and the rest were run of the mill. We were going well until losing both halves and,as yesterday showed,you can do without one but not both. Harris surely had 1his failings but he left us considerably better off than he found us,and I was a Noble fan.
What?! Are you forgetting that the club was in utter crisis mode just two weeks ago, problems that seem to have mysteriously vanished almost instantaneously since Harris left? Or that the team has won more matches in the last 8 days than it did in the previous three months under Harris?
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Joined: Jan 26 2010 Posts: 1301 Location: Bonita , obviously
The so called crisis was financial and related to Locke,TP and alleged unpaid debts. I thought Vickers had been fingered, on here, for that misdemeanour,not Harris who,as far as I know,isn't responsible for paying the invoices. Look,I don't have a problem with Harris leaving,I'm just giving balance before the usual ritual stoning occurs,without realising that it already had !
Joined: Mar 14 2013 Posts: 2666 Location: The Gilbert, Worsley
Harris' recruitment was far superior to that of Nobles. I cant think of one bad signing he made, apart from the short term loans of Michael Platt and Wayne Godwin. He has spent Marwan's money wisely for me, which will benefit us after his departure.
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Joined: Apr 14 2007 Posts: 4314 Location: A couple of foot away
Bonita Red wrote:I thought Vickers had been fingered, on here, for that misdemeanour, not Harris who,as far as I know,isn't responsible for paying the invoices.
I'm not defending anyone here but I just can't accept players claiming non payment, numerous CCJ's and a winding up petition is simply down to our CEO's incompetence. OK I know Vickers has publicly been shamed as the fall guy by the owner, but I'm not that naive to buy it.
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