Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 2524 Location: 10,000 feet up
Tall Red - the right thing to do here is to make a formal complaint to the police rather than the HJ stadium officials - if any of the other fans that witnessed it are prepared to stand up and be counted then they need to contact you.
Also - a Police Officer assaulting a child is a child protection issue, so as well as writing to the Chief Constable of Cheshire you should copy it to Warrington Social Services.
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If you remember the League one final at Warrington when the Bouncers were trying to be heavy handed that day, there is a real problem with the Warrington stewarding arrangements if they have to have bouncers in who do not try and calm the situation down but react with violence to any situation and make it a lot worse. Rugby League is a family game as I have posted elsewhere about the language of one of these bouncers on Friday, they are not trained as stewards but as bullies who normally batter drunks on a Friday night for a laugh, there is no place for them in Rugby League.
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Bigpev wrote:If you remember the League one final at Warrington when the Bouncers were trying to be heavy handed that day, there is a real problem with the Warrington stewarding arrangements if they have to have bouncers in who do not try and calm the situation down but react with violence to any situation and make it a lot worse. Rugby League is a family game as I have posted elsewhere about the language of one of these bouncers on Friday, they are not trained as stewards but as bullies who normally batter drunks on a Friday night for a laugh, there is no place for them in Rugby League.
There are 2 types of security in our ground. The usual stewards and M.Y.L. security,who are a wigan based company I think. Ask any of the MYL lot and they will tell you they are not stewards. So why are they there other to be heavy handed? We don't need nightclub bouncer like thugs acting as security in RL grounds. Do we?
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BartonFlyer wrote:Tall Red - the right thing to do here is to make a formal complaint to the police rather than the HJ stadium officials - if any of the other fans that witnessed it are prepared to stand up and be counted then they need to contact you.
Also - a Police Officer assaulting a child is a child protection issue, so as well as writing to the Chief Constable of Cheshire you should copy it to Warrington Social Services.
Bartonflyer, yes a complaint has been made against the police it was done after the game, they took all my details and the details of the people who witnessed what happend, i have heared from them this morning and they have told me what happend to my son was a accident, not disputing that i know the police didnt knock him over on purpose, but wanted to get the officer to say he was sorry to my son after the incident, but because 1 or 2 salford fans were a little giddy they tared us all with the same brush, it was my fault and every other salford supporters fault that this incident happend. From what was a very minor incident turned worse by the police, as then all the poeple stood around me then had ago at the police for the way they handled the situation, if they had just waited a few more mins for the game to end then get the people they wanted as they left the ground, all this could have been avoided. As for the complaint to the hj that was for the way the stuards( bounsers) handled the same situation. Just dont want everyone saying them salford fans are trouble, it was both salford and warrington fans avin ago at the police and yellow bouncers about the way they handled a minor situation. The police said that i will recieve a writen appoligy from the officer within a week, that is all i wanted in the ground, then this thread probably wouldnt be here or on the wire forum.
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tall red wrote:i have heared from them this morning and they have told me what happend to my son was a accident, not disputing that i know the police didnt knock him over on purpose.
The fact that it was an accident doesn't mean that it wasn't assault.
Unless the officer concerned had a lawful reason to come into contact with your son any contact made, regardless of how slight, whether resulting in injury or not, can be considered assault.
As much as I hate the Amercan-esque litigation culture that's developing in this county, I think you're being very reasonable in simply asking for an apology.
More importantly than anything in this situation though, I hope the little fella is OK.
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Fatboys Limb wrote:The fact that it was an accident doesn't mean that it wasn't assault.
Unless the officer concerned had a lawful reason to come into contact with your son any contact made, regardless of how slight, whether resulting in injury or not, can be considered assault.
As much as I hate the Amercan-esque litigation culture that's developing in this county, I think you're being very reasonable in simply asking for an apology.
More importantly than anything in this situation though, I hope the little fella is OK.
There were lots of pushing and shoving witch i accept and will accept an appoligy from the officer, even though his whole atittude stank at the time. Yeah he werent injured just shuck up a little, but he is saying that he dont wanna go to salford monday, tryin to perswade him though, but still think im gonna be there by myself monday, thanks for concern He just hasnt seen anything like that before, been takin him to games since he was a baby, my wife is dubious about goin to another game and she attends half of the games played by salford, both home and away, but she aint sure now, she says things could have been alot worse, and he could have been realy hurt. Me bein brought up in moss side and hulme have seen serious incidents, so it dont bother me, what happend didnt even warrent a police intervention but haho. Anyway back on topic and enough of my life story ( novel ) But will try and get them there monday with a promise to a visit to the club shop for some new gear and another rugby ball, oh and a hot dog, cant get away with chocolate as its easter today and they have more chocolate than cadburys
Joined: Aug 13 2005 Posts: 5313 Location: ... is fcuking in Heaven
tall red wrote:Yeah he werent injured just shuck up a little, but he is saying that he dont wanna go to salford monday, tryin to perswade him though, but still think im gonna be there by myself monday, thanks for concern
But will try and get them there monday with a promise to a visit to the club shop for some new gear and another rugby ball, oh and a hot dog, cant get away with chocolate as its easter today and they have more chocolate than cadburys
Phone the club, explain what's happened, see of they can arrange for your wee one to meet Ignito pre-match or something like that to make it a more enjoyable experience for him?
Dave Lister wrote:I reckon Salford's fans are the friendliest i've come across and haven't got a bad word to say about them
Love him or hate him, 163 consecutive appearances should make Stuart Littler a Salford legend in anyone's book
Fatboys Limb wrote:Phone the club, explain what's happened, see of they can arrange for your wee one to meet Ignito pre-match or something like that to make it a more enjoyable experience for him?
Haha great idea, but he dont like the new mascot, scared shi**es, used to know nick the power ranger ignito and he used to give my kids a little guddie bag when he saw them, not sure who the new guy is though, but thanks for your efforts. Will get him back to a game, whatever it takes, and the rest of the clan.
Joined: Feb 27 2002 Posts: 2524 Location: 10,000 feet up
TallRed - I hope you do get the apology and also that your lad is not permanently put off going to Rugby League - It would be good if some of the mindless idiots who started the trouble read all this, but somehow I doubt it!
Glad to hear you made a complaint about the Police Tall Red, however wouldn't expect much to be done given how they're now allowed to treat people attending big sports events.
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