"Secondly have you ever heard the phrase speculate to accumulate"
You used to run RBS and Northern Rock
and I want my £5.
Look at our average home attendance and see if this is sufficient for a realistic strategy based on the above comments. I realise more can be done but there is another phrase:
"Cut your clothes according to your cloth."
A better shop - agree but only that.
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There ain't half been some poop written on here recently. Why does everything have to be so extreme?
They did used to sell baby clothes in the shop. Now I haven't asked anybody but my guess is they didn't call a merchandising meeting and say "we're making massive profits on this baby stuff with people queuing round the corner for it so let's not bother selling it anymore".
If they only sell a few a year (and can therefore only order a few) it would be really expensive to have them made and so hard (if not impossible) to make a profit. You have to have something in the bank to speculate with for red13pjb's MBA level business analysis to work
I find it frustrating that everything I buy for my son from the shop is too big for him (and he's a big 3 year old) but I don't for one minute think that the club should be slagged off for making what amounts to a sensible business decision, we're not in a position to lose money in the shop
RedUnderTheBed wrote:There ain't half been some poop written on here recently. Why does everything have to be so extreme?
They did used to sell baby clothes in the shop. Now I haven't asked anybody but my guess is they didn't call a merchandising meeting and say "we're making massive profits on this baby stuff with people queuing round the corner for it so let's not bother selling it anymore".
If they only sell a few a year (and can therefore only order a few) it would be really expensive to have them made and so hard (if not impossible) to make a profit. You have to have something in the bank to speculate with for red13pjb's MBA level business analysis to work
I find it frustrating that everything I buy for my son from the shop is too big for him (and he's a big 3 year old) but I don't for one minute think that the club should be slagged off for making what amounts to a sensible business decision, we're not in a position to lose money in the shop
At last!!!!! someone talking sense.
Its down to ordering minimum orders from suppliers & we are not like Hull's, Bradfords or Wigans fans(for e.g.) who have good/great followings & no man u's in their area's to distract from their merchandise, so where the above clubs can probably shift a minimum order of bibs/babygro's etc in a matter of months, we can't & we are not in the financial position to have stock just lying around.
Joined: Mar 07 2008 Posts: 1647 Location: looking over Barton bridge at our new stadiun
[quote="Red Willow"]I always thought we missed a trick with the t shirts.
Did the shop still have the machine to add names and numbers?
Yes they do as they put chris charles and no 13 on my shirt but it took 2 days as the kit man has first use on it, so that might be a non starter at the moment.
Joined: Jul 18 2002 Posts: 3987 Location: waiting patiently for our new signings to be announced....
Red Willow wrote:Same with Bibs etc, transfers can be designed easily in this computer age.
Its not done though the computer its a big iron pressing thing.
As regards the shop i just wish you could "rent" DVD's of matches for a small price, perhaps have a "season ticket" thing where you sign up and you pay say £50 to join and perhaps £5 per DVD with a £10 deposit, lose or damange the DVD you lose the £10.
Lose 3 dvd's you are banned
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Joined: Feb 18 2002 Posts: 4918 Location: Manchester
The optimist wrote:Its not done though the computer its a big iron pressing thing.
As regards the shop i just wish you could "rent" DVD's of matches for a small price, perhaps have a "season ticket" thing where you sign up and you pay say £50 to join and perhaps £5 per DVD with a £10 deposit, lose or damange the DVD you lose the £10.
Lose 3 dvd's you are banned
You use the computer to make the transfer Rob, then use a big iron to "transfer it " You have seen them on the front at Blackpool
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 7760 Location: Prestwich - the original heart of Salfordshire
Red Willow wrote:I always thought we missed a trick with the t shirts.
Did the shop still have the machine to add names and numbers?
If so why don't they order plain tees then add have a limited number of designs that can go on any shirt/
Same with Bibs etc, transfers can be designed easily in this computer age.
Regarding baby stuff. As I put above, there's probably little money in it, but it keeps customers happy and starts the brainwashing process early. There is this sort of thing whereby you set up designs and they just get produced to order, the unit cost is more, the stock's not instantly available, but there's no upfront costs. The same could be applied to other merchandise - as I said, it's not a big money spinner, but it can provide some variety to keep the punters happy without the risk of bulk ordering.
Red Willow wrote:I always thought we missed a trick with the t shirts.
Did the shop still have the machine to add names and numbers?
If so why don't they order plain tees then add have a limited number of designs that can go on any shirt/
Same with Bibs etc, transfers can be designed easily in this computer age.
Regarding baby stuff. As I put above, there's probably little money in it, but it keeps customers happy and starts the brainwashing process early. There is this sort of thing whereby you set up designs and they just get produced to order, the unit cost is more, the stock's not instantly available, but there's no upfront costs. The same could be applied to other merchandise - as I said, it's not a big money spinner, but it can provide some variety to keep the punters happy without the risk of bulk ordering.
The shop did stock baby gear, Bibs and babygrows and towelling robes! Trust me they were in stock! Whether these items saw the light of day is another thing. The shop has now become woeful but im afraid its down to the supporters, People talk about supply and demand and when the shop has supplied the customers just did not put their hand in their pocket..which ultimitly led to staff in shop being made surplus or hours being cut because there wasnt enough intrest, We had t-shirts, Salford branded ones, Malcolm alker, Luke robinson, red and white polos, Im a little devil t-shirts, Salford rugby hoodies, Pens, Mugs, Retro shirts, dvd's, Shirt printing, Framed pictures, Devil bears, Salford watches, books, car mats, mouse mats etc....
Since 2 years ago its gone downhill i mean when was the last time the online shop actually worked? but i think its an attitude thing ...When the stadium arrives heads will roll...by the way what is Adam Jude doing? because the marketing this year has been non existent in terms of seeing the match being advertised around salford!
Joined: Aug 29 2002 Posts: 9088 Location: Heart, Mind, Body & Soul IN Salford
(The following is not a dig at you by the way, in fact I don’t know who to blame but again it's not you! )
On the flip side the quality of the goods is generally very poor, those retro shirts were, well, crap.
The other gear,
Mouse mats – Seriously, they are never going to be big sellers.
Pens/Mugs – They are really stock merchandise you'd find in every club shop at all over the country and we should expect nothing else
The Alker / Robinson shirts were a decent idea but that was it, just those two, see here for what can be done, we could have gone further either with current players or past players!
Devil Bears
Those watches were cheap and nasty.
Car mats you had to be quick or you missed them, they sold did they get reordered? No!
I think we lets the kids down really badly, they are the fans of the future and if they can't have something to do with Salford they'll just get their parents to go into any sports shop and buy the a Utd/City/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt and we could lose them before we've even started. When a kid walks in a shop with it's parent they generally want to be bought something, go in our shop and what will they get???
We've been let down for years in this department and that's why people don't buy things, it's not something that's the fans are to blame for over the past couple of years, it's an area (Amongst many) that seriously needs to be looked at as I believe we're losing out on a lot of money by stocking either virtually nothing or cheap merchandise.
I've been all over this country watching the boys and most clubs even those in the lower leagues can put us to shame.
Sorry for being negative, I do try to avoid it especially on the eve of a match (the last match at that) but this is just one thing in a very, very long list of things that have really got not only on my nerves but a lot of people I speak with.
(The following is not a dig at you by the way, in fact I don’t know who to blame but again it's not you! )
On the flip side the quality of the goods is generally very poor, those retro shirts were, well, crap.
The other gear,
Mouse mats – Seriously, they are never going to be big sellers.
Pens/Mugs – They are really stock merchandise you'd find in every club shop at all over the country and we should expect nothing else
The Alker / Robinson shirts were a decent idea but that was it, just those two, see here for what can be done, we could have gone further either with current players or past players!
Devil Bears
Those watches were cheap and nasty.
Car mats you had to be quick or you missed them, they sold did they get reordered? No!
I think we lets the kids down really badly, they are the fans of the future and if they can't have something to do with Salford they'll just get their parents to go into any sports shop and buy the a Utd/City/Liverpool/Chelsea shirt and we could lose them before we've even started. When a kid walks in a shop with it's parent they generally want to be bought something, go in our shop and what will they get???
We've been let down for years in this department and that's why people don't buy things, it's not something that's the fans are to blame for over the past couple of years, it's an area (Amongst many) that seriously needs to be looked at as I believe we're losing out on a lot of money by stocking either virtually nothing or cheap merchandise.
I've been all over this country watching the boys and most clubs even those in the lower leagues can put us to shame.
Sorry for being negative, I do try to avoid it especially on the eve of a match (the last match at that) but this is just one thing in a very, very long list of things that have really got not only on my nerves but a lot of people I speak with.
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