FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home The Virtual Terrace Union is dead



Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 5 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Union is dead
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:45 am 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Dec 11 2008
Posts: 13
I support Crusaders and want them to succeed, but whenever people start discussing their prospects, someone aways sticks his head up and says that union is dying in Wales, and soccer is much more popular in any case.

So just to kill that theory:

Saturday 11th April - Rugby Union
Cardiff Blues v Stade Toulousain Quarter Finals European CUp
attendance 36,728

Sunday 12th April - Soccer
Cardiff City v Burnely Championship promotion race
attendance 19,379

Monday 13th April - Rugby League
Celtic Crusaders v Harlequins Super League
attendance 3,009

I am not being negative about RL - just trying to show that there uis a healthy market for sport in South Wales, and that there is no reason why Crusaders could not get similar crowds. But I think they have to change their marketing a little bit - I have been to a few games, and most of the fans (certainly the louder ones) all seem to be Northern ex-pats. I agree that there are more local accents around the ground this season, but they have not yet made the breakthrough to being a 'local' team - still a bit of an implant.

I think that it will come, but it will take another 1 or 2 seasons but this will not be due to any demise of union - it will be in addition to success by the Blues, Ospreys, Bluebirds & Swans

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:52 am 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Apr 26 2007
Posts: 12958
:lol:

yeah thats why union is cutting the number of teams in a country its supposed to be strong in.

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:13 am 
Player Coach
Club Captain
User avatar

Joined: May 15 2006
Posts: 2912
Your choice of games as a comparison is hardly very fair though is it?

A European Cup quarter final and a Championship promotion clash as opposed to a regular league fixture against a poorly supported Harlequins side.

I don't think even the most ardent expansion@zi would consider Celtic anything other than Work In Progress at the moment.






www.hullrockers.co.uk

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: Union is dead
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:26 am 
Player Coach
New Signing

Joined: Apr 03 2007
Posts: 20
smwrff wrote:I support Crusaders and want them to succeed, but whenever people start discussing their prospects, someone aways sticks his head up and says that union is dying in Wales, and soccer is much more popular in any case.

So just to kill that theory:

Saturday 11th April - Rugby Union
Cardiff Blues v Stade Toulousain Quarter Finals European CUp
attendance 36,728
A quarter final, average Magners so far about 8800, with a few derby games so may make 10000


Sunday 12th April - Soccer
Cardiff City v Burnely Championship promotion race
attendance 19,379
This is about their average crowd, and between Cardiff and Swansea, both teams average more than all four RU regions.

Monday 13th April - Rugby League
Celtic Crusaders v Harlequins Super League
attendance 3,009
Although the current average is over 4800

I am not being negative about RL - just trying to show that there uis a healthy market for sport in South Wales, and that there is no reason why Crusaders could not get similar crowds. But I think they have to change their marketing a little bit - I have been to a few games, and most of the fans (certainly the louder ones) all seem to be Northern ex-pats. I agree that there are more local accents around the ground this season, but they have not yet made the breakthrough to being a 'local' team - still a bit of an implant.

I think that it will come, but it will take another 1 or 2 seasons but this will not be due to any demise of union - it will be in addition to success by the Blues, Ospreys, Bluebirds & Swans


I agree with most of your post, but illustrating it by using a one off game instead of league matches, and not the averages is a little disingenuous. The average for Celtic is comparable to Newport who are currently averaging 4900.

Top
   
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:49 am 
In The Arms of 13 Angels
In The Arms of 13 Angels
User avatar

Joined: Mar 05 2002
Posts: 48326
Location: Londinium
Union is an Other Sport. We have an Other Sports forum to discuss Other Sports






Doubt everything, even this

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic This topic is locked, you cannot edit posts or make further replies.  [ 5 posts ] 





It is currently Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:57 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 293 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


It is currently Sun Feb 23, 2025 6:57 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
16m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
17m
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
28m
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Ckt2487
21
56m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
59m
Tyson Smoothy
Wollo-Wollo-
22
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
Recent
Super League
FIL
157
Recent
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
Recent
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3769
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3362
Recent
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Sir Gregory
137
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
3s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
3s
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Ckt2487
21
5s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Sir Gregory
137
10s
Film game
BOSS HOG
8036
14s
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
18s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65297
18s
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
21s
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
22s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
stpatricks
3212
29s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3112
31s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41804
31s
Wigan Warriors - Home
walter wall
199
39s
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
jonh
13
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3362
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
TODAY
Another Big Win For Saints As Castleford Capitulate
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
This site is crap Still
tad rhino
3
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Players on Report
financialtim
11
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
jonh
13
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
1895 cup
BigTime
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Win Again, The Giants Pu..
112
Another Big Win For Saints As ..
212
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over..
207
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
298
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
402
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
609
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
711
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
1013
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
790
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
560
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
799
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
971
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
980
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
1028
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
966
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh24-10Huddersfield
Thu 27th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Fri 14th Mar
CC2025
20:00
St.Helens-Leeds
Sat 15th Mar
CC2025
17:35
Wigan-Hull FC
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull FC
Sat 22nd Mar
SL
15:00
Castleford-Catalans
SL
17:30
Leeds-Wigan
Sun 23rd Feb
SL 2 Leigh24-10Huddersfield
CH 2 Halifax24-14Barrow
CH 2 Hunslet20-38Bradford
CH 2 LondonB14-12Featherstone
CH 2 Oldham18-18Batley
CH 2 Widnes10-8Sheffield
CH 2 York6-7Toulouse
L1 1 Dewsbury10-20Crusaders
L1 1 Goole V14-16Midlands
L1 1 Rochdale44-0Keighley
L1 1 Swinton16-10Whitehaven
Sat 22nd Feb
SL 2 Salford6-32Leeds
SL 2 Castleford6-46St.Helens
Fri 21st Feb
SL 2 Warrington18-12Catalans
SL 2 Hull FC4-46Wigan
Thu 20th Feb
SL2 Wakefield12-14Hull KR
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
16m
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
17m
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
28m
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Ckt2487
21
56m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
59m
Tyson Smoothy
Wollo-Wollo-
22
Recent
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
Recent
Super League
FIL
157
Recent
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
Recent
TV games not Wire
karetaker
3769
Recent
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3362
Recent
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Sir Gregory
137
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Transfer Talk V5
ArthurClues
877
3s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
DSJ1983
5145
3s
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Ckt2487
21
5s
RD2 Salford Red Devils A
Sir Gregory
137
10s
Film game
BOSS HOG
8036
14s
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
18s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65297
18s
Next week v Fev
Hockley Bron
16
21s
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
22s
Wigan v Sts discussion - THIS THREAD ONLY PLEASE
stpatricks
3212
29s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
3112
31s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41804
31s
Wigan Warriors - Home
walter wall
199
39s
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
jonh
13
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3362
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Leigh Win Again The Giants Put to the Sword
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Dust off the canteen chairs The Saints are coming to town
wakeytrin
10
TODAY
Another Big Win For Saints As Castleford Capitulate
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over Disappointing Salford Red Devils
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
This site is crap Still
tad rhino
3
TODAY
Cornwall sign Duel registration with London Broncos
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Matty Lees extenst contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Max Jowitt extends contract
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Ben Davies returns to Saints
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
The big screens
Jake the Peg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC To Get Season Underway
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Super league plus
the-bearded-
3
TODAY
Players on Report
financialtim
11
TODAY
Tonights game v Catalan
Or thane
51
TODAY
Mobile Phone access to RLfans
jonh
13
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Giants
Vancouver Le
4
TODAY
League position
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
1895 cup
BigTime
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Leigh Win Again, The Giants Pu..
112
Another Big Win For Saints As ..
212
Leeds Rhinos Coast To Win Over..
207
Wigan Warriors Thrash Hull FC ..
298
Hull KR Hang On To Take The Po..
402
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
609
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
711
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
1013
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
790
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
560
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
799
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
971
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
980
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
1028
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
966


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.