Lewis' hypothesis, now 2 years out of date. As I have said, the RFL will make a decision based on what is best at the time, not what the current pipe-dream is.
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belgianxiii wrote:Whatever our theories as to what TO is doing in the UK they are just that. Whatever reasons the RFL have had for introducing TO to the Championship what they will look to get out of it will change depending on their performance - we have seen that the RFL is happy to change their plans to suit the circumstances.
A second French club in SL would help, but I don't think it is what is needed now: to have some effect we would need enough players to fill in the second SL squad. TO would not improve the national squad unless they had players that could compete with Catalan players. Better having a mostly french squad at Catalans competing with Leeds/Saints and exposing those players to a higher level of Rugby than two French clubs scrapping it out with Huddersfield and Wakey.
The whole point of the RFL demanding junior development as a condition for Super League franchise is to ensure that there are new young French players being developed for the new club's professional ranks. Three years from now it is likely that some of these will have graduated. Take these, plus the best of the existing French players in the TO Championship squad, plus one or two RU defectors (as we have had at Les Catalans) plus half a dozen Antipodeans, and you have a competitive SL squad.
If you speak to anyone in the high levels of administration of Les Catalans they will tell you "we need Toulouse in Super League." That is Bernard's view, and that is the view of the club.
You are entitled to your opinion as to what is the best strategy for French rugby league. However you are not entitled to claim your opinion on what is best is the view of the RFL or the French clubs, or even that they are not already decided on these matters.
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belgianxiii wrote:Lewis' hypothesis, now 2 years out of date. As I have said, the RFL will make a decision based on what is best at the time, not what the current pipe-dream is.
What makes you think that he still does not adhere to this view?
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maxpil wrote:having 2 french team in Super League means twice 10000 or 14000 french people in RL Stadium.
Or French are not aussies and love their national team;
that also means 20000 or more for French National matchs.
Aussies love their national team too. It is just that they are bored with seeing them win most of the time.
But I agree that you will get these numbers of spectators at the French SL clubs matches. Les Catalans will have an 11,500 capacity for 2010, which it desperately needs for its matches against Leeds, St Helens, Wigan and others.
There are several thousand rugby league fans living in the Aude region who don't attend TO matches now, but who are likely to jump on the train or into their car to attend Toulouse Super League home games. I can see TO in SL getting 10,000 average attendances within three years of admission into Super League.
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belgianxiii wrote:Lewis' hypothesis, now 2 years out of date. As I have said, the RFL will make a decision based on what is best at the time, not what the current pipe-dream is.
it proves what the RFLs intentions are re toulose.
toulose are certainly not in NL1 to act as a feeder club for les cats.
its up to les cats to sort themselves out re their juniors without worrying about someone else to do it for them
Alice's Phallus wrote:You are entitled to your opinion as to what is the best strategy for French rugby league. However you are not entitled to claim your opinion on what is best is the view of the RFL or the French clubs, or even that they are not already decided on these matters.
Right back at you.
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dally messenger wrote:it proves what the RFLs intentions were re toulose.
typo corrected.
dally messenger wrote:toulose are certainly not in NL1 to act as a feeder club for les cats.
its up to les cats to sort themselves out re their juniors without worrying about someone else to do it for them
toulose are in NL1 as a prelude to entry in SL
Well, looking at the squad as it stands, they desperately need our UTC players to succeed in the Championship, a deal apparently agreed on this front. So they will provide a higher comp for our juniours to have a hit-out, exactly what we want from our feeder club. We don't need them to develop players for us, we have that in hand thank you.
Again, this is your opinion of what TO is doing in the Championship, gazing into your crystal ball. Currently they are struggling in the Championship and if the player loans work out they will be working as our feeder. Currently they are adding interest to the Championship with an international aspect. In 2010 they will need exceptional progress in/off pitch to have a squad that will beat 'Fax and Widnes. If they don't they will stay in the Championship for another 3 years.
Your crystal ball predictions are the obvious conclusion, but they are not what is currently happening. Unless they can change to fit the SL criteria in ~18 months (unlikely) the obvious conclusion will not match with the facts.
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Well, looking at the squad as it stands, they desperately need our UTC players to succeed in the Championship, a deal apparently agreed on this front. So they will provide a higher comp for our juniours to have a hit-out, exactly what we want from our feeder club. We don't need them to develop players for us, we have that in hand thank you.
Again, this is your opinion of what TO is doing in the Championship, gazing into your crystal ball. Currently they are struggling in the Championship and if the player loans work out they will be working as our feeder. Currently they are adding interest to the Championship with an international aspect. In 2010 they will need exceptional progress in/off pitch to have a squad that will beat 'Fax and Widnes. If they don't they will stay in the Championship for another 3 years.
Your crystal ball predictions are the obvious conclusion, but they are not what is currently happening. Unless they can change to fit the SL criteria in ~18 months (unlikely) the obvious conclusion will not match with the facts.
toulose will be in SL next time. of that i am 100% certain.
im fairly confident that if they dont win an NL1 title within the next few years, they will be exempted from that condition.
and once in SL they will become a massive club.
Toulose were very unlucky to miss out last time. indeed their sponsors and financial backing was said to be stronger than when LEs Cats won their SL bid.
your posts strike me as being a little insecure that another french club might harm les cats.
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