Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:02 am
Donnyman
Club Captain
Joined: Nov 16 2019 Posts: 2534
puroresu_boy wrote: What logic lies behind giving a promoted team less money to spend on the salary cap?
To spend on who?? There was nobody to buy.
They are making up the numbers and it's important the players give it their all each week. I enjoyed the match last night, everyone loves an underdog who tries, and the only problem we could have from leigh is if players start to give up, which I doubt will happen as I reckon they will be kept in SL for next year so the players may well be playing for SL contracts......
And no championship winner will be allowed up if they didn't win it on a full season of matches. Some RL journo may just want to just confirm with Superleague whether there actually will be P & R at the end of this season.....
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:19 am
wire-quin
Player Coach
Joined: Jan 23 2006 Posts: 7392 Location: Looking for a coach that can coach
Donnyman wrote:To spend on who?? There was nobody to buy.
They are making up the numbers and it's important the players give it their all each week. I enjoyed the match last night, everyone loves an underdog who tries, and the only problem we could have from leigh is if players start to give up, which I doubt will happen as I reckon they will be kept in SL for next year so the players may well be playing for SL contracts......
And no championship winner will be allowed up if they didn't win it on a full season of matches. Some RL journo may just want to just confirm with Superleague whether there actually will be P & R at the end of this season.....
If not Leigh need to know now as clubs are buying up next years squads, if not we will have a repeat of this year.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:08 pm
Fr13daY
International Star
Joined: Aug 01 2012 Posts: 963 Location: A floating palace of ignorance
wire-quin wrote:If not Leigh need to know now as clubs are buying up next years squads, if not we will have a repeat of this year.
Next year you would presume that the club promoted would be slightly better off in that they will know that they're promoted by September, and will have (SL chairmen willing) the full amount of funding that the rest of the SL teams have too.
Never trust a man who, when left alone in a room with a tea cosy, doesn't try it on.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:58 pm
Ste100Centurions
International Star
Joined: Jun 16 2013 Posts: 2794
Kevs Head wrote:Promotion and relegation’s not the problem in rugby league. Relegation’s the problem. Under the current system a team’s relegated whether it deserves to be or not just because it finishes bottom. Take London in 2020, relegated on points difference even though they won 10 games. The thing is they were competitive - they beat Wigan, Leeds, Sts, Trinity (twice), Catalans - and given a bit more time could have been, I think, successful and an asset to Super League. But they had to be relegated because they finished bottom (ahead of HKR who they beat twice!) The winners of the Championship should be promoted (and protected from relegation for 1 season) whilst they bottom SL team is assessed for its competitiveness during the season. Work’s been done in the States on measuring teams’ competitiveness during matches so it can be done. A competitive team wouldn’t be relegated. It could lead to expansion and increased quality of SL based on measurable on field performance. An odd number would mess up Magic but there's a way round that too. Why relegate a potential asset? I don’t know if this approach would help Leigh this year but they shouldn’t be relegated anyway. I know they applied for it but they and their fans haven’t been treated fairly. To relegate them would be a farce and bring the game in to disrepute.
Post subject: Re: Are Leigh the worst ever SL team?
Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:36 am
Barbed Wire
International Star
Joined: Oct 15 2012 Posts: 1897
Sadly, I think Leigh are proof that there are a limited number of SL players of influence. 11 clubs got to pick first, they got what was left, and a lot of them aren’t able to affect an SL game.
I’m not suggesting that their squad doesn’t have players who CAN play at this standard, but that they lack the players who can determine a change in momentum/unlock defence/control a game.
Usually, squads have a lot of these ‘filler’ players, for example Wigan have had Isa, Clubb, Crosby etc. and Leeds had Kirke, Gibson, Achurch etc. No doubt that these have been successful in their career by being in squads that have won trophy’s, but they don’t influence change in matches themselves.
So, is the answer to have less clubs and make the top of the pyramid narrower, or to facilitate better movement of these core talents across a settled group of elite clubs. It’s evident that a lot of clubs have finished their recruitment business before promotion is sorted, so the talent pool is drained before they even get a chance to pick.
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