Joined: Mar 15 2002 Posts: 12792 Location: Leeds 13
stormingbronco wrote:A message to those of you who are posting 'negative' viewpoints.
Let's presume you go to Perpignan and are in the 91% who book their travel 2 months or more prior to 'gameday' and your hit in the future by SkySports late change everyone of you would have had to either re-arrange your travel - average additional cost around £150.00 perhead plus the £60-£120 perhead already spent etc etc - or lose the cost allready paid.
So you will have been well stuffed as Sky only gave 48 days notice of the changed.i.e. about 7 weeks. In addition those of you who 'book' travel to Perpignan at the last minute seemingly have 'money' to burn.
Suggest that those posters who are 'critical' need to think a bit harder. This is not the cost of 'short' bus/train local ticket & match day ticket but a 'major' outing - often involving the whole family & thus many hundreds of hard earned cash.
So, hopefully we will see less 'carping' and more votes & positive support
I fully support the sentiment but the reality is, it's nothing new in the age of wall-to-wall televised sport.
As a football supporter I've lost count of the number of rail tickets (a Leeds-London return can cost £210+), hotels and various other costs that I've incurred due to TV rearrangements - it happens. As much as I support the petition, unless somebody can suggest an alternative source of funding Sky are going to take some influencing.
Quote:I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls
Quote:Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.
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gutterfax wrote:mmmmm....I think I'll dodge that bullet thanks. I keep my council very rarely, especially regarding Mr Hughes without whom we would all be following the Skolars.
So it's ok to petition the other club chairmen with your complaint, but not the chairman of your own club lest you upset him and he storms off in a huff?
Do you not think such blatant self interest dilutes the point you're trying to make?
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bramleyrhino wrote:I fully support the sentiment but the reality is, it's nothing new in the age of wall-to-wall televised sport.
As a football supporter I've lost count of the number of rail tickets (a Leeds-London return can cost £210+), hotels and various other costs that I've incurred due to TV rearrangements - it happens. As much as I support the petition, unless somebody can suggest an alternative source of funding Sky are going to take some influencing.
Fully aware that Soccer and Union fans have had this for years. The point here is that:
a/ Catalans fixtures have always remained untouched in the reg season since they joined.
b/ Sky have picked this game to test the water. Imagine if they had picked this weekends Leeds game???? c/ If the people I contact (see above list) decide to let this go without raising a concern, then it will happen again and it could be you.
As has been pointed out, this fixture change hasn't bothered me, because if I do go, I will only book at the last minute anyway due to work, but I refuse to shrig my shoulders and let SKY ride roughshod over the RL community.
dally messenger wrote:was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have
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Big Graeme wrote:Two wrongs do not make a right.
no they don't, i wish people luck, just not holding my breath, tbh it cost me a load of money and i was nobbed off and thus shared my story.
i do believe however as stated b4 you've got little or no chance of changing things.
sorry to be the prophet of doom and all that
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They did it for the fixture where it would affect the least supporters, still wrong but at least they haven't done it for a fixture say against Wigan/Warrington/Hull or Rovers
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stormingbronco wrote:A message to those of you who are posting 'negative' viewpoints.
Let's presume you go to Perpignan and are in the 91% who book their travel 2 months or more prior to 'gameday' and your hit in the future by SkySports late change everyone of you would have had to either re-arrange your travel - average additional cost around £150.00 perhead plus the £60-£120 perhead already spent etc etc - or lose the cost allready paid.
So you will have been well stuffed as Sky only gave 48 days notice of the changed.i.e. about 7 weeks. In addition those of you who 'book' travel to Perpignan at the last minute seemingly have 'money' to burn.
Suggest that those posters who are 'critical' need to think a bit harder. This is not the cost of 'short' bus/train local ticket & match day ticket but a 'major' outing - often involving the whole family & thus many hundreds of hard earned cash.
So, hopefully we will see less 'carping' and more votes & positive support
we know, i made the jorney to perpignan 4 times in the past 2 years, that was not the point i was making, read what people are saying before criticising folk, reality is a vicious mother! your not going to change any thing! oh and when it happens to me i'll be fooked off as well.
"she wore, she wore, she wore a yellow gibbon"
"she wore a yellow gibbon in the merry month of may"
"and when i asked her why she wore a gibbon"
"she said it's for the wire and it's gonna climb a tree!"
INARDIS FIDELIS
"If Noble is there next year I will not be renewing my season tickets mine and two grandchildren the future Wigan Suporters.
How low can we get".............wigan fans ...ancient and loyal
Joined: Aug 13 2003 Posts: 20966 Location: The Shaky Isles
Andy Gilder wrote:So it's ok to petition the other club chairmen with your complaint, but not the chairman of your own club lest you upset him and he storms off in a huff?
Do you not think such blatant self interest dilutes the point you're trying to make?
One of the reasons for not including DH is the fact he has funded the club over the years, but if you want the MAJOR reason, I suggest you read through 6 years of my "we are crap at everything marketing" rants on here. Mr Hughes knows fully my stance on various issues at the club and it would quite honestly, be a waste of virtual ink to bother him.
As for blatant self interest? You are havin' a bubble mate! I have done this with no self interest or even club interest at heart.....just the interest of all RL fans. HTH
dally messenger wrote:was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have
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Joined: May 31 2005 Posts: 4064 Location: An exclusive mansion apartment in fashionable South London
rugbyreddog wrote:Whilst I feel sorry for the Quins earlier this season they bumped an arranged visit of Bradford in order to play the Aussies in a friendly. The words Pot and Kettle soring to mind.
Actually the two words that spring to my mind on reading your post are "clueless" and "totally".
Quins v Bradford was not "bumped" anywhere, it was scheduled for Sunday 8 Feb when the fixtures were first released. Unfortuntely due to the most severe cold snap in London for nearly twenty years it had to be postponed because the protective covers on the pitch froze to the surface and would have ripped up the pitch if they had been removed. I'm sorry for any Bradford fans who lost money on pre-paid travel/accommodation etc., but this could have happened to any away supporters attending any match.
Bizarrely, some Bradford fans then expected us to cancel a game with Manly in order to rearrange their fixture at just two weeks notice, at a time of the year when there could easily have been another weather-induced postponement, meaning anyone needing train tickets or hotel accommodation would stand no chance of obtaining the cheapest rates.
Unless one team or the other reached the Challenge Cup semi final there was always going to be at least one free weekend in the summer on which this fixture could be rescheduled, and that is exactly what has happened. Bradford fans get almost three months notice of a fixture now scheduled for Saturday 8 August - plenty of time to book train tickets at not much more than a tenner each way and cheap hotel rooms at a Travelodge or similar if necessary. The parallels between this and the postponement by 24 hours of Catalans v Quins by a television company, after travelling supporters had booked in advance on the basis than Catalans have always played on Saturday evenings (except on a couple of Bank Holiday weekends) are not immediately apparent to me.
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MrPhilb wrote:They did it for the fixture where it would affect the least supporters, still wrong but at least they haven't done it for a fixture say against Wigan/Warrington/Hull or Rovers
I think [I stand to be corrected] that the point of GF's poll here is exactly to try to protect all the supporters of all the other clubs.......this isn't about getting SKY et al to change this particular Quins fixture as I suspect it's done and dusted and we have to live with it, but it is to give some indication of the feeling of supporters of other clubs who may now face this issue later this season and the next ones, as another poster has said it was a toe in the water test to see if anybody would raise objections and picking the Quins game was a good tester for them.
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MrPhilb wrote:They did it for the fixture where it would affect the least supporters, still wrong but at least they haven't done it for a fixture say against Wigan/Warrington/Hull or Rovers
Yet.
Can you say with all certainty that when next years fixtures come out that people will be booking to go to France in droves if there is a chance it can happen again? Maybe we can't win this battle but maybe we can stop them doing this to others.
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