Joined: Mar 09 2004 Posts: 33944 Location: watching out for low flying geese
tb wrote:Nope – if you want to argue that the costs of televising games in the Championship, in terms of effect on attendances, outways the benefits: the burden falls on you to provide the evidence (it is, as pointed out, available and easy to gather).
But you can't seriously expect anyone to engage with you if all you offer as supporting evidence to back up your point is guesses and supposition.
Personally, I've no idea what the effect is on crowds (either generally or at the televised games themselves) or finances of clubs. But then, I'm not the one arguing for an end to televised games.
Discussion doesn't neccessarily have to be or lead to argument
I'm not saying end the televised games , I'm asking if they are of benifit and if not then maybe a different option would be better
If you dont want to contribute dont , nobody is forcing you
kcab sfrawdder
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I think most if not all clubs have their biggest attendances in front of Sky cameras. OK, there may be a lot of free tickets issued, but nonetheless, bigger crowds attend.
Joined: Mar 05 2002 Posts: 48326 Location: Londinium
Alexs Dad wrote::lol:
Do you realise what that makes you sound like?
somone who knows how to construct an argument (note for Starry: this doesn't mean 'row' it means a reasoned debate with support for the position you put forward )
I guess it depends on each circumstance as to wether or not they are a benefit to the clubs. Just one example when Barrows game last year was televised against Batley it resulted in one of our largest crowds of the season. In saying that perhaps the fact that Batley wernt ripping trees up in NL1 and we were going well in NL2 might have had a bearing on that but I feel the appearance of the sky cameras somewhere where they have not been before had a large bearing on that attendance.
Starbug cites Widnes and Leigh not being in line for promotion as the reason the crowd at that televised game was perhaps down on previous years, he could be right. I would imagine its got more to do with Leigh being very stop-start this year more than any other factor, but thats just my opinion.
I have a scientific fact to declare; I had an initial theory, have tried it out in at least two different locations in the town, and by throwing caution to the wind with the budget I observed the theory to be correct on almost every occasion.....
The number of people who leave the pub 5 minutes before a non televised game is greater than the number of people who do not leave said pub for a televised one.
Joined: Mar 09 2004 Posts: 33944 Location: watching out for low flying geese
On a similar discussion on the fax board this was quoted
Quote:A quote from last weekends edition of Game On!:
"From the eight Co-operative Championship games that have appeared on Sky Sports this season, six of the clubs have reported their highest attendance figures of their 2009 campaign"
Which would lead you to see this as a positive , except quite a few of those matches have been local derbies Widnes/Leigh , Leigh/Widnes , Fev/Fax , Donny/Eagles which you would expect to be those clubs best attendances
Others such as Fax/Widnes and Haven/Widnes would also be expected to be those clubs biggest ' draws ' so far
kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!
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