What for? He's a Wakey fan... he's already f**ked.

Must have missed where I called you poop.

And it's true only time table matters is end of season.

Yes, forums are for people to go on and discuss different things. As you have a minority that post on our board about stadia, do you not think it good if all fans discussed these issues.

And also, to clarify, I meant I don't give a toss about Wakefield as a fixture - i.e. it's just another game for me.

Fair enough, just you seem to be on Wakey forum quite a bit and if you did not give a toss about us then it would be rather strange.

As for grounds I am sure we will get one, as I have said I don't care if Cas get one or not!

Yes, because Wakefield are a similar club to Castleford and I'd be unhappy if either club was kicked out. I admire Wakefield as a club this season, the way they've handled things.

We all have a laugh and a giggle when each side loses, because that's what you do in rivalry - it's banter. But if we beat you, it's just 2 points - gloating doesn't achieve much as the next week you can come down to a bump, much like you've suffered in the last few weeks.

There'd be nothing more than I want than a Cas v Wakey CC Final/Grand Final in the future, with both playing out of new stadia.

And i think most Wakey fans admire Cas for coming back up stronger after a copule of rough years, banters fine, gloatings for childish morons.

Those two years out of SL have had a significant impact on the club - and so has the licencing. They can no longer sit back, and take the ride and hope that there is another club to save them.

They have to work harder, improve all areas and start listening to the fans. It's something that Wakefield need to do; possibly conducting market research into what would make more fans go to Belle Vue etc would be a start.

Obviously a successful side is a starting point, but even when you got to the CC semi-final last year your attendances weren't that great. I just hope all these threads on the 'demise' of Wakefield aren't true and it's all complete rubbish.

I agree the banter is great it adds to the forum it would be boring as hell without it.

Think you will find most cas fans care about beating leeds and fev more, wakey and wigan we dislike about the same.

I'd rather the RFL actually set realistic criteria. Over the last 5 years we have improved our ground dramatically. We have plans to keep improving it which may take another 5 or 6 years. Personally I'd like the RFL to judge each club individually, identify where the areas of their grounds are that need improving (if any) and work with the clubs to improve them. What if Wakey, Cas, salford etc can't raise $25mill to build a new ground? Should we consider them worthless or should we be encouraging them to invest in what they have and improve them to teh standard of teh likes of the HJ and Catalans? We all don't need to play on legoland grounds like the KC and JJB (not that there is anything wrong with them) but a mixture of ground types adds to the flavour of SL imo.