you're right, it is plenty of Clubs, Wakefield could do more, Salford too, Wigan seem to get half the job in scouting and training them done, but struggle to get them firing in the first team

Wire are slowly improving on that front and have started to bring players through, Castleford and Huddersfield as well

and youth development is integral to our sustainability as a sport, and its competitiveness, not only at international level but SL level too,

Are you actually joking with that post? If a Leeds academy player isn't good enough to make Leeds first team he should give up on his RL career?

If a player isn't the finished product by the age of 20 he should give up and not make himself available to lesser clubs. That makes complete sense...

And on that note, I'm done with this thread.

im not sure that wigan is the same, almost all of the players going from Wigan to Hudds were established first team squad members, which is why i didnt include Fozzard in the 5 (otherwise there would be 6)

the same cant be said of Murrell, I'anson, Fox, and Netherton and Chev was god awful in his last year there

and Hull only have Dowes and Raynor as Leeds academy products, and Dowes was a tyke first, as was Raynor

well thats good, because you clearly struggled to read or went a little mental and decided to make something up, either way, dont attribute your mistakes to me

Huddersfield would probably double the number of first team players from the club if the 21 age cap was removed (all are in the 1st team, been with the club for over 3 years but not yet 21.)

I think the interesting numbers will be in 2 or 3 years time when the clubs in the bottom half of the table arent under so much preassure just to survive

Smokey, I'm genuinely confused.

Would signing Ben Kaye or Danny Williams have been a positive investment in young british talent or scavenging rejects and dooming ourselves to be uncompetitive with the team that discarded them, IYO?

so give them a shot then




and if he is top quality he will be in and around the squad in two or three,



no it isnt, there are thousands of amateur players, hundreds of NL players, hundreds of RU players and all you needed to find was 2 for this year and you would back at 8, then another 3 over the next 2 years and we are fine and dandy at 5, like the plan was, no need for dispensation, no need for rule changes,


here are some stats for you the last 2 SL grand finals, has included 10 different overseas players, your team this year has 10



indeed, but all SL squads should mostly be made up of their own juniors, all of them (bar maybe celtic, which is obvious)




it would yes, and we should force them, and all clubs to do it, and do it well

it would have been better than what you have done, not quite as good as what you could have done

or maybe now we can offer the kids the same pay and conditions as leeds we are able to attract them?

Look I am not in favour of our "dispensation" I would love to see SL restrict imports to 4 per club and have a criteria that they have to had played at rep standard but I am also very realistic that it takes years for a good jnr programme to bare fruit. Signing kids at 14-16 means a good 4-5 years min to see them develop into the first team squad.

You could level the same argument re "average" overseas players at most clubs. Why with Hull's amazing jnr development did they sign Byrne and Dykes? Why after 12 years of Sky money does Bradford go out and sign a 35 year old player? Why with all Wigans success have they signed a has been like Roberts? Rovers have more average pleyers than some clubs but again that is indicative of being a club that has only had 2 years in SL. We have strengthened with decent English players year on year and we will continue to do so. Hopefully some will be our own developed Hull lads, we've done it before and we'll do it again.