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 Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 11:01 pm 
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Old_Faithful_IAKW wrote:Without turning this into another Hull FC v Hull KR borefest IMO only Tony Smith could be ahead of Agar in that list.Agar, despite only having his 2 half-backs playing together once or twice in the full season, has taken the team who finished 12th last year to having a realistic chance of been in the top 4. The alternative coaches who might be deemed 'better' coaches (Bluey, Brown, Morgan) have taken their teams from 2nd, 3rd and 4th respectively to (atm) 5th, 6th and 7th.

But it wasn't the same team though was it? :IDEA:






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PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:11 am 
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Westwood/Richards/Mcguire MOS
Tomkins/Briscoe/Watts YPOTY
Smith/Mcgiure/Noble COTY

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 Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:11 am 
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 Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:57 am 
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Bovrick wrote:Have you seen the amount of votes for Richards? :? .


I know, what the hell. He has not even been the best winger for Wigan this year. Amos Roberts (barring his injury) has completely outclassed him. I can only assume people that people would rather Stevo think for them rather than make their own minds.

Bovrick wrote:That's why Richards is so popular. His kicking imo hasn't been as good this year as in previous years, but his general play is just great practically every game he plays.


I have to admit I can't ever remember thinking "Oh no here comes Pat Richards". He has run in some good tries and caught some good cross field kicks. His points scoring record this year has been impressive. But surely Wigans success this year has been more down to good coaching, the excellent playmaking of Sam Tomkins and the great running of players in the back rowers like Joel Tomkins.






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 Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:03 pm 
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Noel Cleal wrote:I know, what the hell. He has not even been the best winger for Wigan this year. Amos Roberts (barring his injury) has completely outclassed him. I can only assume people that people would rather Stevo think for them rather than make their own minds.

I have to admit I can't ever remember thinking "Oh no here comes Pat Richards". He has run in some good tries and caught some good cross field kicks. His points scoring record this year has been impressive. But surely Wigans success this year has been more down to good coaching, the excellent playmaking of Sam Tomkins and the great running of players in the back rowers like Joel Tomkins.


Roberts was good for the first part of the season, then after his injury didn't recapture his form/wasn't fit. Pat had been the most consistent player in our team and he doesn't just catch kicks run in some trys he makes us a lot of metres, it's like having another forward. I see your point about Sam and Joel but i realyl think he's had an incredible season. I don' think thers a club that wouldn't have him.

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 Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:06 pm 
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Noel Cleal wrote:I know, what the hell. He has not even been the best winger for Wigan this year. Amos Roberts (barring his injury) has completely outclassed him. I can only assume people that people would rather Stevo think for them rather than make their own minds.

I have to admit I can't ever remember thinking "Oh no here comes Pat Richards". He has run in some good tries and caught some good cross field kicks. His points scoring record this year has been impressive. But surely Wigans success this year has been more down to good coaching, the excellent playmaking of Sam Tomkins and the great running of players in the back rowers like Joel Tomkins.


To be honest it's been another tough year for me to pick, like last year. No player has truly stood out for me. Earlier in the year I agree Roberts would have walked it, unfortunately he ended up in a position where he couldn't walk, and it slipped away. A similar position may have appeared if the same hadn't happened with Eastmond.

I personally moved on to backing O'Loughlin for a while, due to his consistency, defence and assists, but since then his form has dropped a little back to his good but not great setting. I fear the same for Richards after some great point scoring form a few weeks ago, however he has come off this form too imo. Either of these would be deserving through consistency from Wigan, but obviously that is ignoring other players who have been impressive for other teams, for example McGuire and for bits of the season Pryce.

I'm just glad I'm not picking, as there is no obvious choice (eg. Barrett ;) )but personally I couldn't argue against Richards. As for being threatening, you don't have to look it to actually be it, I remember not being at all threatened by a minor comeback in the second half by Bradford over Wigan earlier this year. At not one point did I think they would score, and suddenly they had won. I woud say that feeling is probably what Richards causes for other teams all the time.

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Pat Richards - Man Of Steel.

Went 40 yards, burnt the fullback and won Wigan the game.

I can't remember whether he scored 20 or 22 points. 14 points away from Andy Farrell's record.






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 Post subject: Re: MOS / Young Player / Coach of the Year
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Embarrassing that people are mentioning Joel Tomkins, a player in his 6th Super League season, for Young Player of the Year.






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headhunter wrote:Embarrassing that people are mentioning Joel Tomkins, a player in his 6th Super League season, for Young Player of the Year.

Not really embarrassing?
It's his 5th season anyway, and althoguh he is too old and can't be taken into consideration he's still only 23

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