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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:14 pm 
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given macnamara the benefit of the doubt since hes been in charge and seen improvement since hes been in charge

but the way we are playing is awful to watch, think we could do play alot better than we do with tactics

too boring, the first 2 tests certainly were

he did win the series though so you could say he deserves another contract, for me id like to see change for the style of rugby we play to improve






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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:43 pm 
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Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Of course, in the interests of a balanced assessment, you have to look at both sides and provide relative comparisons.

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:What was England's win ratio for the years prior to Steve McNamara?


In the 5 years prior to McNamara taking over (2006 - 2010), England/GB played 12 games against Australia & NZ, winning 5 & Losing 7 so a better win ratio over the same amount of games

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Have the margins of defeat got smaller or larger?


Does it matter...a loss is a loss regardless of whether it is by 1 or 100

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:England didn't have any injuries then?


As far as established England players go, Jack Reed, George Burgess & Sam Tomkins (who was included in the squad whilst injured until March - a bad coaching decision in itself) are the only players missing through injury...not really the same as missing the captain, both half backs, record try scorer, main prop forward (and a couple of other established internationals such as Leuluai, Taumalolo)

Doom&Gloom Merchant wrote:Except it mattered last Saturday, and we won.


It didnt really matter in comparison to a Four Nations/World Cup competition win though...we won the same trophy back in 2007 and since then NZ have gone on to win a World Cup & 4 Nations and we havent got anywhere near them or Australia since. Yes it is nice to win a series, but in the bigger picture it doesnt rank with the other tournaments we play in






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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:35 pm 
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If McNamara stays on for the next World Cup it will be a travesty. Even with the quality of players at his disposal his team still spouts out dire, bland rugby. The poor 2013 World Cup should've been the end as his reign.

But because we sneaked a 2-1 series against only a second string NZ team, people want to see him in the job. :DEPRESSED:

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:59 pm 
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People talking about the record prior to Macnamara are ignoring the quality he has been able to choose from. Especially in the backs which has always been a problem area. We also have more players playing in the NRL now than I can ever remember. So yeah, I think with the right coach we could and should be playing a lot better.

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:14 pm 
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McNamara has to go he is approved poor coach, we have improved in spite of him, the real test is 4 nations next year which under him I am convinced we will fall short.

Mcdermot and Powell dual head coaches for me.

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:55 pm 
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Isn't McDermott the USA coach?

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 12:28 pm 
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McDermott and Powell is a good shout.

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:27 pm 
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Good god no. I'm not averse to either as England coach but you can't have dual head coaches.

Think Highlander. There can be only one.

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:16 pm 
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We need a new coach, but will the candidates mentioned want the job?






“You are playing a game of football this afternoon but more than that you are playing for England, and more even than that, you are playing for right versus wrong. You will win because you have to win. Don’t forget that message from home. England expects every one of you to do his duty.”

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 Post subject: Re: England coach
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:30 pm 
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Hopie wrote:We need a new coach, but will the candidates mentioned want the job?



Not if it's full time but may be if it's part time.
We only have a few games a year so part time should be ok, imo.






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