Kosh wrote:You can knock on after a tackle is complete and before playing the ball. It still counts as a knock on. Blaymire voluntarily released the ball after the tackle, making it a knock on. Alibert even awarded the scrum to Celtic.
It should have been play on and the try given.
Sorry,but youre wrong - below is from the rule book.
A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the
ball other than by bringing it into play in the
prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he
accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be
formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
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MHL wrote:do the bbc have access to the official time keepers, or do they use there own? who does the ref go off, the official ones or the bbc one's?
just because bbc said they was 5 seconds left, that doesn't mean they was on the official one when he sticks his hand in the air
Think BBC's stops with the offical time, im not sure if they use their own or not.
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A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the ball other than by bringing it into play in the prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
So you're saying that every time a player loses the ball following a tackle, a scrum must be called instantly? No advantage played under any conditions?
Refs have been getting it wrong for years, then.
Edit: Actually, having read the notes to the rules on losing the ball, it's not abundantly clear what should happen when the ball is released voluntarily rather than accidentally. Also, without reviewing the footage, it's not clear whether the momentum of the tackle was continuous or whether Blaymire was stopped dead and then dragged. If the former, the tackle wasn't complete until he stopped moving; if the latter, it should have been a penalty to Wakefield.
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Kosh wrote:So you're saying that every time a player loses the ball following a tackle, a scrum must be called instantly? No advantage played under any conditions?
Yes - And I think you'll find that's what has happened for years.
Once the tackle is complete, the ball is dead - recovery by the defence doesn't bring the ball back in play, the ball is still dead and can only be brought back into play by a legal play-the-ball.
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Scooter Nik wrote:It was the correct decision by him. He doesn't control timekeeping, the time keepers do, and AFAIK there is nothing in the rules that allows him to overrule them
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A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the ball other than by bringing it into play in the prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
I would have thought the relevant passage would be the part about advantage played.
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