Tell who your coach is cant you......

The decision at the KR vs Wire match was a bit weird.



5 seconds left; "Time off" the scrum is formed.

*Hooter*

Silverwood/Bentham whoever it was blows up.

"Sir, you took the time off!"

"No I didn't Lee."



Fair enough there was 5 seconds left but why blatantly lie. Then fans moan "Berrr this is turning into football" but in football a referee makes a decision and sticks with it and doesn't make a decision then denies doing so.

He stopped the clock but once the hooter goes he has to call time if the ball is dead unless it's a penalty.



It was the time keepers who got it wrong

as a celtic fan i was a bit annoyed to not be able to either attend or watch last nights game so i'm not going to comment on the game however what i will say is that karma is a beautiful thing and will even itself out eventually.



some might say this is karma in action because we got a license we shouldn't have had, maybe it is. however its pointless debating something we can't change either it was so bad that someone needs to officially complain to the RFL for a full investigation into the suitability of this ref at this level to which the response will be the only way to get up to the level needed is to ref at that level . i.e tough $hit. or they'll just ignore it.



we're stuck with him the result is on the board i just hope we don't get him again

Mutts where the fook is that.



He is from Normanton which is between Wakey & Cas.

Ben as reffed us before & screwed us also in the past. It's swings & roundabouts.

Quite simple - tackle deemed complete -- the ball is dead , no advantage can be played,after a tackle is made the ball has to be brought back into play(by playing the ball).



100%correct decision.

As I already said though, if we're saying the tackle was complete then how was it not a penalty? The Celtic player continued to drag the Wakefield player back and he lost the ball in the process. If it was already complete then he should have been penalised for not releasing the player/ interference at the play the ball then shouldn't he?

Could anybody clear up the defused bomb, or not? As somebody else mentioned contradicting decisions seemed to be given in the 2 games, anybody know for sure?

Thats a fair comment,but in Aliberts opinion,Blaymire lost the ball after the tackle was completed.He could have ruled a penalty to Wakefield,if he deemed the Celtic player hadnt released Blaymire and continued to affect the tackle even though it was already complete.

However, the one thing he couldnt do, was play on.

You can knock on after a tackle is complete and before playing the ball. It still counts as a knock on. Blaymire voluntarily released the ball after the tackle, making it a knock on. Alibert even awarded the scrum to Celtic.



It should have been play on and the try given.

Sorry,but youre wrong - below is from the rule book.



Losing possession 8.

– intentionally

– accidentally



A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the

ball other than by bringing it into play in the

prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he

accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be

formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.

Summary:



1. Decisions moaned about actually spot on

2. Posters whingeing about them need to read RL Rules For Dummies, then apologise

do the bbc have access to the official time keepers, or do they use there own?

who does the ref go off, the official ones or the bbc one's?





just because bbc said they was 5 seconds left, that doesn't mean they was on the official one when he sticks his hand in the air

Think BBC's stops with the offical time, im not sure if they use their own or not.

i'm sure they do try stop at the same time, but over 40 minutes with lots of stoppages, 5 seconds isn't much error range.

So you're saying that every time a player loses the ball following a tackle, a scrum must be called instantly? No advantage played under any conditions?



Refs have been getting it wrong for years, then.



Edit: Actually, having read the notes to the rules on losing the ball, it's not abundantly clear what should happen when the ball is released voluntarily rather than accidentally. Also, without reviewing the footage, it's not clear whether the momentum of the tackle was continuous or whether Blaymire was stopped dead and then dragged. If the former, the tackle wasn't complete until he stopped moving; if the latter, it should have been a penalty to Wakefield.

Yes - And I think you'll find that's what has happened for years.



Once the tackle is complete, the ball is dead - recovery by the defence doesn't bring the ball back in play, the ball is still dead and can only be brought back into play by a legal play-the-ball.

Exactly.



And lets not forget that one of those two timekeepers is a Warrington employee.

Ref in getting it right shocker!

I would have thought the relevant passage would be the part about advantage played.

as already pointed out, advantage doesn't come into play. because effectively the ball isn't in play after a tackle, until the play the ball has happened, so therefor it is a scrum.

yes, but which team does his brother support?

Didn't see the game but it seems this is mainly about supporters ignorance? Of course this isn't to detract from referees just getting things wrong - we all know they do that from time to time.



Why don't people ask the question about the laws first, rather than assuming that a ref is bent, or corrupt or incompetent or the like? Do they really think they know the rules and laws better than qualified referees?Better to be informed and maybe learn a little, rather than open ones gob and come across as an incompetent and ignorant moaner. Still, this is Rugby League and our staunch dyed-in-the-wool supporters seem to want to stake a claim on the lions share of Britains sporting ignorance...........



To answer the question posed by someone - the guy who caught the ball in the in-goal area, the ball having been touched in flight but not having touched the ground, I would have thought the correct call was play on and this would be due to the ball being touched in flight. ie he either runs the ball out or gets tackled in the in-goal area, in which case a drop-out would be the result. That is if I have understood the question properly and understood the laws properly too! Is this what happened?

Exactly ,but some people still want to re write the rule book to suit there own point of view.

Fair enough, but it seems like there is a fine line here that must be difficult to police. How many times do you see a player lose the ball as he hits the ground, the defence pick it up and advantage is played? Technically the tackle is complete the instant the ball-carrying arm hits the deck, but I'm pretty sure that a scrum isn't called 100% of the time.