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| Quote ="Starbug"Not if the claims of the importance of a club in London for the future prosperity of the sport is true
I would have no problem with the RFL helping to fund the Quins in a marketing initiative , as long as it was all out in the open
I have on numerous occaisions posted that the RFL should be doing much more than they do to help all clubs generate better attendances
In fact it is the one area they seem to neglect'"
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| Quote Homer wrote: The criteria [such as it was would have been written pre credit crunch so I suspect they may not be as relevant anyway.
Good point that many commentators have alluded to.'"
Would that not be the same for crowds- Cas v Wire 5000, Bulls crowd dropping.......
No excuse for the Quins but just a thought.
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| Quote ="Roofs"In reality Quins are safe as houses in SL anyway, their crowds won't affect their status.
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Are you jealous of us or something? Or have you got some un-related hatred towards the Quins? Every thread involving us, you join in with some witty humour, give it a break?
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| Quote ="tim791"Are you jealous of us or something? Or have you got some un-related hatred towards the Quins? Every thread involving us, you join in with some witty humour, give it a break?'"
It's not only you, he has a dig at us as well.
Flatcapper in every sense of the word.

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| I really don’t care about attendances because its not what I go see when I go to rugby matches. Sometimes I think that some people off this forum go to matches to watch the crowd. Please start watching the rugby because your missing an awful lot!
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I really don’t care about attendances because its not what I go see when I go to rugby matches. Sometimes I think that some people off this forum go to matches to watch the crowd. Please start watching the rugby because your missing an awful lot!'"
Don't be stupid.
What will they have to say on threads like this if they actually watch the game and discuss that afterwards?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Don't be stupid.
What will they have to say on threads like this if they actually watch the game and discuss that afterwards?'"
I don’t know.
People who talk about rugby on this forum ruin it for everyone else. 
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Don't be stupid.
What will they have to say on threads like this if they actually watch the game and discuss that afterwards?'"
Are we only restricted to talking about the game then?
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| Quote ="RB"Are we only restricted to talking about the game then?'"
Feel free to talk about other stuff in the sinbin. I’ve not been banned they for an age so its safe now! 
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| Nobody said that but check the number of replies to this one thread in comparison with the others and you will see my point.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Nobody said that but check the number of replies to this one thread in comparison with the others and you will see my point.'"
I’m looking forward to five years time when people will be in love with the Celtic Crusaders club for providing us with a decent GB player. If your development is anything to go with in the area then it sounds like you will unearth something special.
I wonder who will be moaning about attendances when Celtic are helping GB smash the Aussies.
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I’m looking forward to five years time when people will be in love with the Celtic Crusaders club for providing us with a decent GB player. If your development is anything to go with in the area then it sounds like you will unearth something special.
I wonder who will be moaning about attendances when Celtic are helping GB smash the Aussies.'"
Let's hope so.
My guess to the question is will be the Isle of Wight Pirates. 
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Let's hope so.
My guess to the question is will be the Isle of Wight Pirates.
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America nearly did it and are going pro!
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I really don’t care about attendances because its not what I go see when I go to rugby matches. Sometimes I think that some people off this forum go to matches to watch the crowd. Please start watching the rugby because your missing an awful lot!'"
long time no hear Damo  Things were looking good for abit... 
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| Quote ="Damo-Leeds"I really don’t care about attendances because its not what I go see when I go to rugby matches. Sometimes I think that some people off this forum go to matches to watch the crowd. Please start watching the rugby because your missing an awful lot!'"
I doubt any spectators at a game spend more time counting the crowd rather than watching the rugby.
Crowd size is an important topic of discussion because it is a good indicator of the health of the game and individual clubs within it.
The RFL have recognised this importance with 2 of the 10 marks available for the next round of franchising directly related to crowd size.
If you cannot see the importance of crowd size you are "missing an awful lot!"
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Would that not be the same for crowds- Cas v Wire 5000, Bulls crowd dropping.......
No excuse for the Quins but just a thought.'"
Totally, which is why in 2 years time I don't think that part will play such a large part of the selection criteria, for the same reasons I wonder how the RFL will stand on the new grounds issue as they also obviously will have been affected by the recession.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"I doubt any spectators at a game spend more time counting the crowd rather than watching the rugby.
Crowd size is an important topic of discussion because it is a good indicator of the health of the game and individual clubs within it.
The RFL have recognised this importance with 2 of the 10 marks available for the next round of franchising directly related to crowd size.
If you cannot see the importance of crowd size you are "missing an awful lot!"'"
But some here are way too obsessed with it.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"But some here are way too obsessed with it.'"
Ahh well, you have a point there! 
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"But some here are way too obsessed with it.'"
I have a massive spreadsheet with data going back to 1908 on not only the attendance figures but on the actual "size" of the crowd.
1908-1950 your average fan weighed in at 9.5st.
1950-1970, increase to 9.8st.
1970-1984 10.0st
1984-1990 10.5st
1990-2009 14.7st
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| Quote ="BigRedV"
Rome wasn't built in a day.'"
Apparently Cloughie wasn't on that particular job 
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| Quote ="littlerich"I have a massive spreadsheet with data going back to 1908 on not only the attendance figures but on the actual "size" of the crowd.
1908-1950 your average fan weighed in at 9.5st.
1950-1970, increase to 9.8st.
1970-1984 10.0st
1984-1990 10.5st
1990-2009 14.7st'"
Yeah  sorry about that
Can we do a BMI index as well, surely in that one we would beat some traditional teams.
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| Quote ="tim791"Are you jealous of us or something? Or have you got some un-related hatred towards the Quins? Every thread involving us, you join in with some witty humour, give it a break?'"
Yes, I'm kinda jealous of the guaranteed SL place that London (under whatever name) will [ialways[/i have, regardless of attendances. This time last year was a very worrying time for fans of many clubs, but London must have known they were a shoe-in, purely because of location.
Just find it annoying that's all. 
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"Ahh well, you have a point there!
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| Quote ="Roofs"Yes, I'm kinda jealous of the guaranteed SL place that London (under whatever name) will [ialways[/i have, regardless of attendances. This time last year was a very worrying time for fans of many clubs, but London must have known they were a shoe-in, purely because of location.
Just find it annoying that's all.
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You're jealous of a myth?
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| Quote ="Kelvin's Ferret"You're jealous of a myth?'"
It's not a myth - a tenner says they're never out of SL between now-2020, even if their crowds drop below 1000?! 
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