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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:40 pm 
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Peckerwood wrote:Would all of the 118 débutantes Richard Lewis was on about have made their débuts under a P&R system?


No , probably about 117 of them






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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:41 pm 
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We knew what the targets were, we've delivered to them but still not got in. Many Halifax fans are disillusioned as a whole. We could just about get our heads around the Widnes for Wakefield swap, with Crusaders staying, but the current scenario is farcical. What's to say the goalposts won't be moved again in 3 years?

Maybe if we move to Edinburgh, knock down half our ground and go into administration we'll stand a better chance next time round.

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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:46 pm 
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Jaffro wrote:We knew what the targets were, we've delivered to them but still not got in. Many Halifax fans are disillusioned as a whole. We could just about get our heads around the Widnes for Wakefield swap, with Crusaders staying, but the current scenario is farcical. What's to say the goalposts won't be moved again in 3 years?

Maybe if we move to Edinburgh, knock down half our ground and go into administration we'll stand a better chance next time round.


It's pretty simple what a club needs to do to get into SL: Bring more to SL and RL than a club that's already in there.






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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:51 pm 
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So where do you feel Halifax fall down against Wakefield?

(Remember that Wakefield have received significantly more investment from Super League over the past 3 years - youth structures etc have to be considered with this in mind. We could have this, if we were in Super League (chicken/egg syndrome)).

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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
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Jaffro wrote:So where do you feel Halifax fall down against Wakefield?

(Remember that Wakefield have received significantly more investment from Super League over the past 3 years - youth structures etc have to be considered with this in mind. We could have this, if we were in Super League (chicken/egg syndrome)).


I haven't seen the bids.






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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:06 pm 
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That's be the fair and transparent bidding process then...

I rest my case.

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 Post subject: Re: Stop this self destruction before its too late
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:07 pm 
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Richie wrote:It's pretty simple what a club needs to do to get into SL: Bring more to SL and RL than a club that's already in there.



that Sir is a load of sh@.
If your logic was followed through no club in Soccer, RU, or RL would ever get promoted after spending a minimum of 3 seasons denied promotion, because the club going down should always have a better team, a better youth system and a better structure due to income and funding being poles apart.
If we could get the heads of the VT mafia surgically removed from their ar$e$ to spend a few years at the coal face of a club with ambition but not in the SL clique, they would understand the damage being caused to just 5/6 clubs - because the rest either do not have the ambition or are nowhere near achieving it.
RL today is 20 or so clubs with the ambition to play in SL, the rest are not ready, never will be or never want to be.
Two divisions of Ten are needed immediately if we are to ever grow our game to reach its potential, the Wigans/Wire/Leeds/Saints will still be winning 90% of the pots regardless of this but we increase the intensity of SL1 whilst creating a platform for ambitious clubs to go FT and eventually break that dominance, and I dont mean the Leighs etc but the future big SL clubs in Cardiff/Swansea/Bristol etc

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Shoe Shine Johnny wrote:I remember well the 3 days of fantastic coverage that this great sporting piece of theatre got.

October 8 2007 http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/oct/08/rugbyleague.sport

October 10 2007 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/widnes/2007/10/10/widnes-vikings-go-into-administration-100252-19927838/

Yeah, happy days :?


Ask the fans of Cas and Widnes who went through that day or of HKR/Leigh/Hudds/Salford who had gone through it before. The NL Grand Final was the biggest (financially and emotionally) game of the season. The desperation started when it became clear the drawbridge was going up.
Shoe Shine Johnny wrote:I remember well the 3 days of fantastic coverage that this great sporting piece of theatre got.

October 8 2007 http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/oct/08/rugbyleague.sport

October 10 2007 http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/widnes/2007/10/10/widnes-vikings-go-into-administration-100252-19927838/

Yeah, happy days :?


Ask the fans of Cas and Widnes who went through that day or of HKR/Leigh/Hudds/Salford who had gone through it before. The NL Grand Final was the biggest (financially and emotionally) game of the season. The desperation started when it became clear the drawbridge was going up.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:21 pm 
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maurice wrote:Ask the fans of Cas and Widnes who went through that day or of HKR/Leigh/Hudds/Salford who had gone through it before. The NL Grand Final was the biggest (financially and emotionally) game of the season. The desperation started when it became clear the drawbridge was going up.


The desperation started when the Widnes players turned up for their losing pay after the GF and were told the club was bankrupt and they were all out of a job :?






I might have heard something.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 7:28 pm 
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Unlike the Crusaders players turning up today and effectively being told the same thing - oh yes, thats progress all right!

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