Post subject: Re: Premier League Consider Single Use Stadium
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:45 pm
FearTheVee
International Board Member
Joined: Sep 26 2002 Posts: 11377 Location: Much too far South
BigRob wrote:Owned by club: Leeds Bradford St Helens Warrington Castleford (will their new ground be totally owned by the club?) Wakefield (same as Cas)
Not owned by club: Wigan Huddersfield Hull FC Harlequins Crusaders
Not sure Catalans Hull KR Salford
Will the likes of Cas, Wakey, Salford & Saints fully own their new stadiums?
Didn't Wakey sell their stadium and now they're leasing it back, or have I made that up?
Post subject: Re: Premier League Consider Single Use Stadium
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:53 pm
Bondi_Warrior
Club Owner
Joined: Jan 15 2004 Posts: 3422 Location: Cronulla
BigRob wrote:Owned by club: Leeds Bradford St Helens Warrington Castleford (will their new ground be totally owned by the club?) Wakefield (same as Cas)
Not owned by club: Wigan Huddersfield Hull FC Harlequins Crusaders
Not sure Catalans Hull KR Salford
Will the likes of Cas, Wakey, Salford & Saints fully own their new stadiums?
Not sure about Saints but Salford, deffinatley not as its a joint venture between the council and Peel. Highly doubtful Wakey or Cas could afford it outright, likely to be a mix between council, private company and themselves. Do Warrington fully own the ground? As many new stadiums are joint ventures between council, private company and the club themselves.
Saddened wrote:Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.
Post subject: Re: Premier League Consider Single Use Stadium
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 3:55 pm
FearTheVee
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Joined: Sep 26 2002 Posts: 11377 Location: Much too far South
Bondi_Warrior wrote:Not sure about Saints but Salford, deffinatley not as its a joint venture between the council and Peel. Highly doubtful Wakey or Cas could afford it outright, likely to be a mix between council, private company and themselves. Do Warrington fully own the ground? As many new stadiums are joint ventures between council, private company and the club themselves.
I don't think Wire own their ground - pretty sure I read somewhere Saints would be the only SL club that owns a new-build stadium outright, but I might be wrong (I often am!).
Post subject: Re: Premier League Consider Single Use Stadium
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:09 pm
Leaguefan
International Chairman
Joined: Dec 22 2001 Posts: 9721 Location: Cougarville
slightly o/t but which clubs in the entire RL community (professional) actually do own their own ground?
I'll take a stab
Batley - Yes Barrow -Yes Blackpool -No Bradford - No Castleford -Yes Catalans - No Crusaders - No Dewsbury - Yes Doncaster - No Featherstone -Yes Gateshead - No Halifax - No Harlequins - No Huddersfield - No Hull - No Hull KR - No Hunslet - No Keighley - Deffo No!!!!! Leeds - No Leigh - No London Skolars - No Oldham - ??? not sure Rochdale -No Salford - yes St Helens - Yes Sheffield - No Swinton - No South Wales - No Toulouse - No Wakefield - Yes Warrington - yes Whitehaven - ? not sure Widnes - No Wigan - No Workington - yes York - No
24 No's!!!!
At the moment all that can be said is "interesting"
regards
and ENJOY your sport
Leaguefan
"The Public wants what the Public gets" - Paul Weller
Post subject: Re: Premier League Consider Single Use Stadium
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:11 pm
Bondi_Warrior
Club Owner
Joined: Jan 15 2004 Posts: 3422 Location: Cronulla
shambawangy wrote:Well Wigan have a 50 year contractual lease, if this came into force Wigan Athletic would be thrown out of the PL. Wigan RL wouldnt be going anywhere
Its a pointless arguement anyway, all these accusations that its the RL that damages the pitch is pathetic. When Everton made a complaint about the pitch, we hadnt even been on it for months. Nobody thought to take into account the location combined with so called poor draining and topped off with the worst winter in years. We even aviod playing at home during may so there is time to sort out the pitch.
Saddened wrote:Pat Richards is poop. A typical, average, run of the mill NRL outside back. Nothing special at all. Like Barrett he is a myth. He is solid enough, he can catch, he can kick goals.
Bondi_Warrior wrote:Not sure about Saints but Salford, deffinatley not as its a joint venture between the council and Peel. Highly doubtful Wakey or Cas could afford it outright, likely to be a mix between council, private company and themselves. Do Warrington fully own the ground? As many new stadiums are joint ventures between council, private company and the club themselves.
I'd agree often they are joint ventures, however often the councils will simply "give" the club their share of the ground or not demand a share in the first place. For instance, and I could be wrong in this, but I was under the impression that for Cas & Wakeys new stadiums the council would provide £2m each without demanding a share of ownership of the ground. Although I can't see the private companies involved doing similar!
Still not sure about Hull KR, can't really find any definitive info about New Craven Park, although to be honest Im not trying that hard!
Not always the most reliable of sources I know its difficult to find info anywhere else
FearTheVee wrote:Didn't Wakey sell their stadium and now they're leasing it back, or have I made that up?
Bondi_Warrior wrote:Not sure about Saints but Salford, deffinatley not as its a joint venture between the council and Peel. Highly doubtful Wakey or Cas could afford it outright, likely to be a mix between council, private company and themselves. Do Warrington fully own the ground? As many new stadiums are joint ventures between council, private company and the club themselves.
I'd agree often they are joint ventures, however often the councils will simply "give" the club their share of the ground or not demand a share in the first place. For instance, and I could be wrong in this, but I was under the impression that for Cas & Wakeys new stadiums the council would provide £2m each without demanding a share of ownership of the ground. Although I can't see the private companies involved doing similar!
Still not sure about Hull KR, can't really find any definitive info about New Craven Park, although to be honest Im not trying that hard!
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