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Eddie certainly didn't like the fact that an Aussie guy described the SL as 2nd rate and that Gareth Ellis needed training on the basics .......... IMO a bit blinkered of Eddie dismissing the comments.






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KNOCK OFF NIGEL wrote:At Warrington the guy got on my nerves.

Having just watched Boots n All and his expert analysis I must admit to been quite impressed with the way he explained through the certain plays from Rd1.


Do you mean like when saints were using 4 player to tackle it was a good thing but later in the programme he was bagging another team for doing the same :wink: :lol:






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Starbug wrote:Do you mean like when saints were using 4 player to tackle it was a good thing but later in the programme he was bagging another team for doing the same :wink: :lol:


I was just about to say the same. He gave Saints priase for getting 4 in the tackle, then he was calling i think Wakefield for doing the same.

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morning warrior wrote:Makes you wonder why Warrington's defence was so bad when he was in charge if it is all so obvious now.


Eddie wasnt there to tell him to repeat it in laymans terms.






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KNOCK OFF NIGEL wrote:Eddie wasnt there to tell him to repeat it in laymans terms.


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Starbug wrote:Do you mean like when saints were using 4 player to tackle it was a good thing but later in the programme he was bagging another team for doing the same :wink: :lol:


Thats exactly what I said when I watched it, he was contradicting himself big time there.






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r4yne wrote:Thats exactly what I said when I watched it, he was contradicting himself big time there.


I'v no doubt he has done it before , but we probabley couldn't tell at the time :wink:






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He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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r4yne wrote:Thats exactly what I said when I watched it, he was contradicting himself big time there.


Saw a min of it.. was the tackled player 'winning' or 'losing' the collision in both examples? It could be that the mighty S were tackling in groups and successfully putting the player on his back and slowing them down, while Wakefield were letting Leeds still get a speedy play the ball meaning they have fewer numbers in the line?

Not seen it but that's all I can guess. Or you are right and he's an idiot :wink:






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Steve-O wrote:Saw a min of it.. was the tackled player 'winning' or 'losing' the collision in both examples? It could be that the mighty S were tackling in groups and successfully putting the player on his back and slowing them down, while Wakefield were letting Leeds still get a speedy play the ball meaning they have fewer numbers in the line?

Not seen it but that's all I can guess. Or you are right and he's an idiot :wink:


Since you put it like that, you do have a point. We were winning the collisions a fair bit and Warrington had fewer men in their tackles and didn't manage to turtle us. Leeds have always had a good ruck and quick plays of the ball, its hard to slow them down.






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Eccleshill Rhino wrote:What it shows is that top coaches are brilliant man managers - both Rae and Cullen have great technical knowledge but failed as coaches.

You have to be able to get your players to not only believe in your plan but to give them the confidence/respect/belief to be able to carry it out.

Coaching is only part about technique
Partly, but I also think that Cullen and Rae probably don't have anywhere near the level of tactical knowledge of a top coach. Their analysis is barely scratching the surface of a coach's tactical knowledge, it just seems complicated because in general RL fans know next to nothing about the sport. It's scary how little an average RL fan knows compared to fans of most other sports. Hopefully the Boots N All analysis will go some way towards improving that.






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