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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:01 am 
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SmokeyTA wrote:woooooosh


yeah thats the sound of all the hot air leaving your body mate.

keep explaining the salary cap, this is amusing.

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dally messenger wrote:yeah thats the sound of all the hot air leaving your body mate.

keep explaining the salary cap, this is amusing.


try reading it again, you're still missing the point!






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SmokeyTA wrote:try reading it again, you're still missing the point!


Smokey explaining how teh salary cap works.

unbelievable.

its only when it applies to Leeds rhinos that it loses its impact.

the irony

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dally messenger wrote:Smokey explaining how teh salary cap works.

unbelievable.

its only when it applies to Leeds rhinos that it loses its impact.

the irony


i sometimes wonder what you are reading, because it isnt what is written






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SmokeyTA wrote:but the clubs they are competing with arent in the same 'market' they are in a bigger one, with a higher Salary Cap, and will be able to offer higher wages, meaning to keep the good ones Celtic will need to offer even higher wages, with a smaller cap, putting them at immediate disadvantage



Is is the same market. They all have something they want to buy.

Welsh union supposedly has more money to spend, however they bleed more red ink than they know what to do with.


The difference between League and union is that League is sustainable. In its current format, union is spending beyond its means.






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The Glorious League Freak wrote:Is is the same market. They all have something they want to buy.

Welsh union supposedly has more money to spend, however they bleed more red ink than they know what to do with.


The difference between League and union is that League is sustainable. In its current format, union is spending beyond its means.


Whether that is the case or not,

The fact that their SC is higher gives them an inherent advantage over the crusaders, who simply cannot compete, otherwise they will end up overspending on welsh players (relative to their value in our market) to keep them away from the WRU clubs (who wouldn’t be overspending in their market)






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Its the same market!


Players are able to switch codes....they are all in the same market.

Some can pay more than others.....but its the same market!






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The Glorious League Freak wrote:Its the same market!


Players are able to switch codes....they are all in the same market.

Some can pay more than others.....but its the same market!


No, it isnt, its two separate ones, the RL market for RL players and an RU market for RU players,

Some players can be both RU and RL players, some cant,

RL operates under a salary cap, and a players value in that market (the market to RL clubs) is decided as the relative worth under an SC

RU operates under a different salary cap, and a players value in that market (the market to RU clubs) is decided as the relative worth under that SC

When players cross over, RL is at a disadvantage because a players market worth in the RL market is decided as a relative worth within a smaller SC, so when players are available to both markets, we lose because we aren’t offering the same amounts

Do you understand?

Ill give you an example, an average centre in this country in RL may earn £60k a year, the average centre in RU may earn £70k per year, an average centre wants to test his worth on the market, the RL club would have to pay £70k to match his RU wages, but this is £10k more than he is worth on the RL market, therefore they have overpaid for him!






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SmokeyTA wrote:i sometimes wonder what you are reading, because it isnt what is written


i took the fact that you were making sounds as you had no real reply.

im enjoying your explanations of how the salary cap works, quite enlightening.

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Best thing RL in Wales can do is go after 1 big name with a centrally funded contract, that person is then contracted to 'sell' the game in Wales.
Shane Williams 3 years at 750k pa.

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