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 Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:37 am 
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Fully wrote:Just wish he'd drop the ball-handling prop role and go back to being the machine who drove it in hard. Was a better player and I actually think this change of aspect in his game has actually lowered his performances. Players know what he is going to do now.


He gets it right at times and gets team mates smashed at others, needs to learn when and where to throw a pass.

Oh and a fantastic prop by the way!






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Jeff the God of Biscuits wrote:Even as a Wigan fan I have to admit Jammer is immense. He is a machine and just doesn't stop. He'll do well in NRL.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:01 pm 
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the only problem graham will have is that not all the players on hes team will want a nickname ending in SY, for example jamal idrisy if he is staying at the doggies or micheal ennissy. but other than that he will do good but i cant see him making as many meters in the nrl.

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i honestly think he'll be back at st helens after a year.........good luck to him though






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It depends on how they use him. If they spot his robotic workload and herculean effort tbey will use him for 70 minutes a game and he'll do just as well as he does in SL.

If they reduce his game time it might increase his impact. It will be interesting to see how he goes, but he's clearly the best player from SL that has ever gone to the NRL. He's far better than either Burgess was or is and they've done well.

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he's not better than burgess.........






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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:24 pm 
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The OP is the worst troll ever.

OK England didn't play well in the final, but to clarify how good Graham's game is, watch the first England/Australia game from this years four nations. Whilst Graham was on the pitch England were completely dominant, this was partly due to the tempo Graham plays at.

He's not got to smash players with raw aggression like Burgess or Morley, and I honestly don't think he has the same attritional qualities as Peacock. On the other hand he's very quick, for a prop, always makes metres, always gets a quick play the ball and is natural rugby player. He would have fitted into NSW team that played so well in the second SoO game this year, and improved it.

When comparing League to Union I used to say league was the purist form of Rugby; doing the physical aspects of rugby better, without haing to worry about where your forwards are. I wouldn't disagree with that, but Graham shows how important it is for a player to get their technique right and play at a high tempo. In that respect he's very similar to Paul Gallen. Though, I really hate the whinging.

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 Post subject: Re: james graham will get battered in the nrl
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roughyedspud wrote:he's not better than burgess.........


Different players. Burgess, on a day when everything clicks, could destroy most teams in the world, but he would need players like Graham around him to make that happen!!

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In the game against the Austrlians he took the first drive off our line in the second half, why the hell would he set off running and then give the worst pass ever out to no one. In my days you hit the line as hard as you could to get the ball away from your own line.

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pud wrote:just wanted to say he is the most over rated player in super league, he will get battered over there in the nrl. the games he played over here against the aussies he was poor and was easily found out by the aussies. people rave on about him over here but he's just average at best, the aussies will kill him over there and he will find it hard because the aussie refs wont listen to him whingeing all the time, good luck james you'll need it!!! :D


Given the tackling technique displayed by the Aussies in the 4 nations , I would suggest you are right , smashing people in the face will batter him






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