Going by major finals, finishing positions over the last few years, I'd say:

Leeds, Saints, Hull, Catalan Dragons.

Rovers will finish in the top four. Probably fourth but maybe pip Hull for third. Also challenge cup up for grabs. Discount rovers at your peril. You heard it first from the cab man.

same old cabman always *********

I wouldn't say there is a Big 3 or 4 anymore. All the teams, with the exception of Warrington and Bradford, are quite evenly matched meaning anyone could beat anyone.

This is why you remain below Wakey? Cabby I like your style and I hope it happens to one of us but it's utter b*llocks for now. Hull FC have consistently been up there in recent years (last year aside) you have not, they probably are in the top 4 at the moment but despite what there fans think they are far from certainties.

The eventual make up of the top four for this season remains unclear IMHO and I don't especially think Hull FC are guaranteed. At the moment there is a big one, Leeds - the rest are yet to be revealed.

I fancy Wakey and HKR to make the top 6 of the 8 which would be good work, where we actually fall in that 6 is anyones guess, but lets not get carried away just yet.

The two teams who will struggle to challenge are Bradford, Wigan and Warrington and this is where the shock really lays. Although I expect at least two of those to recover for top 8.

Of course you don't being a Wire fan you'd know all about team building, I mean it's got to be a fluke

Two teams?

You have to love the Vastman.

3 major finals since 2005 and winning 1,Attendances increasing with record season pass sales 2009 and thats after finishing 11th,a profit for the last 3 seasons,Grade A licsence.

Nope sireee..not certaintes at all

Yep we hear you

Keighleywill beat Cas as well

The Big 4 were expanded into a big 6 with Wire and Hull FC. The issue is not just pedegree and on-field success, the issue is with the bottom line. Even with FC's shocker last year they still had the crowds to bankroll the club. Bradford can have a 3 year slump but their crowds are still better than many, currently more successful, clubs.

It's nice to get into the top 4, but to stay there you need the cash, which means you need the crowds. That's why the top clubs stay the top clubs.