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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:22 am 
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cherrydevil wrote:It also seems like anytime the ball hits the floor the referee gives a knock on, even when the ball goes back.


This a major bugbear of mine, if they're going to give a knock-on even when the ball goes backwards they may as well just introduce some sort of a "fumble" rule, at least that way we won't get regular half-baked decisions where balls that clearly go backwards are pulled up, whilst every now and again balls that are genuine knock-ons get a play on.






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chubbs1981 wrote:ok and i'd say that if as in this case the ball is on the back of his ribs and its knocked out by accident then the tackling player is so close to the tackled player he is impeding him getting up.

as you said its a two way thing it just so happens that it was on sky and the refs at sky games seem to use the video replay facilitiy for the most minor of things that wouldn't get considered at a non sky match.

if they can use the video to check offsides and crossing etc surely they could have used it for instances like this. after all it showed on the big screen and the ref could see it. i know once the decision is given it can't be over turned but it seems like such a waste of a facility that is available to them.


we gotta be careful we dont get what we wish for here!

atm the VR is only for Tries and for 40/20 decisions not for any other decision throughout the game. I think if they were to introduce something like this it'd be the thin end of the wedge - it wouldn't be long and they'd be checking for all kinds of errors and indiscretions. The game would never flow, and itd end up liek Gridiron!

leave it as it is I say!






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Kelvin's Ferret wrote:This a major bugbear of mine, if they're going to give a knock-on even when the ball goes backwards they may as well just introduce some sort of a "fumble" rule, at least that way we won't get regular half-baked decisions where balls that clearly go backwards are pulled up, whilst every now and again balls that are genuine knock-ons get a play on.


I think the answer is much more simple than that - at the moment they are quite strict on a knock-on decision; I'd say just be less strict. If it looks like it went back or there is some conjecture or doubt, play on. I'm not saying ignore knock-ons but if it goes back or there is a strong suggestion it went back or if there is genuine doubt, etc etc, call it a knock-on. Then allow play to continue.

I dont think it'd mean many changes, maybe only one in every four would be a play on call as a result but I think thats about right. this way there are no rue chages but the refs are just a little more lenient. I'm not sure if there is an edict from RFL match officials dept which contradicts that but surely its worth a thought, especially when we all want to see the ball in play more. It would lower the number of stoppages as well I think.






'For a bonus point perhaps you could tell me the last English SL coach to lead his side to victory (either Challenged Cup or Grand final)? ....or perhaps records don't go back that far!


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its a bugbear of mine too. surely a knock on mean knocked onwards/forwards. when i was at bradford for the crusaders win there was a shocker of a call, knock on given if memory serves me correctly from a kick guy jumps up fluffs the catch and the ball goes easily 3 yds backwards but a knock on was still given

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