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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:21 pm 
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SmokeyTA wrote:you have said numerous times that they should just 'suck it and see', i.e go into the championship and just see what its like, and then make a plan, which is obviously silly as they cant make a plan for the time they have just spent in the championship, because it has already happened.

Which basically means they waste a few years pottering around in the championship, making no progress to their ultimate aims for reasons you have yet to say



well thats just changing the meaning of words and such complete tosh



:lol: do you really think Celtic just appeared one day? that Leighton Samuel pulled the club out of his ass and here they are now 4 years later in SL :lol:

you know thats rubbish, and i know that is rubbish, SL was the medium term aim, introducing welsh players to a competitive SL side is the long term aim, everything crusaders have done from the day they were registered in nl2 and for a bit before that two, has been focused on the medium term aim of getting SL, and being in a position to start focusing on the long term aim, introducing welsh players to a competitive SL side,

right now, because they made all of short medium and long term aims they are ahead of where they would have been, their youth sides are up and running and have been for 2 or 3 years now, so they are at the very least 2 or 3 years ahead of where they would be had they taken your advice, and spent a couple of years knocking round the lower leagues, just having a look see

"We wanted to recruit players who we know had been developed the right way and through systems we thought could add something to the development of our young players here in Wales.
"That meant recruiting Australian players that both John and I had worked with, played or coached with or against or know have come through the right development systems in the NRL.
"Their charter is to make us more competitive in the short to medium term. The longer term is about producing Welsh players capable of competing at Super League.
"Recruiting players like Lincoln Withers, Mark Bryant, Adam Peek, Marshall Chalk and Ryan O'Hara, and keeping guys like Jace Van Dijk, Tony Duggan and Damien Quinn, is instrumental in making the Crusaders competitive at Super League initially and for their experience and professionalism to rub off on the young Welsh players."
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this is from Anthony Seibold, it is a good example of how you set short term aims, and making sure achieving those can put you in the best position to acheive your long term aims, i.e short-term aim = being competitive, long term aim = being competitive with welsh players, answer bring in some quality players who have been through the right coaching and can help young welsh players get better. you see how it works now? and nobody had to make detailed plans years or anything, they simply knew they short medium and long term objectives and how they could get from where they are to where they need to be,

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Club chairman Hector McNeil said: London rugby league is crying out for a second top-flight team in the capital and everyone would be happy with a London derby with the Harlequins.
"We've had talks with the Olympics consultants and are going through to the next stage on a shortlist basis. It would have to be a whole new set-up at the club aiming for a 5,000 average crowd and we would aim to ramp up all our capabilities.?


All true

Except for clubs in the heartlands that will forever be excluded from SL because of location

Something that will seriously damage thier chances of bringing in ' Sugar Daddy ' type investment to them

It's a load of bollox






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Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
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On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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Starbug wrote:I also understand where Leigh have been going wrong all these years :lol:


I understood that by watching them play last time they were in SL.

As for the general discussion, they need to plan for the Championship first, see how and if things are working then decide where they want to be. They may decide that a business plan for the SL is not viable and that being an active contributor to the CL is.


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Starbug wrote:All true

Except for clubs in the heartlands that will forever be excluded from SL because of location

Something that will seriously damage thier chances of bringing in ' Sugar Daddy ' type investment to them

It's a load of bollox


yeah but who cares about them, they are rubbish :wink:






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Glenn Morangie wrote:I understood that by watching them play last time they were in SL.


I understood it back in 71 when we wupped yer asses at Wembley pal


Yes we are crap and will remain in the crap league forever , and I'll happily continue watching them there , you tend to meet less t055ers there as you dont have to visit Leeds






kcab sfrawdder



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Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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Starbug wrote:I understood it back in 71 when we wupped yer asses at Wembley pal


Yes we are crap and will remain in the crap league forever , and I'll happily continue watching them there , you tend to meet less t055ers there as you dont have to visit Leeds


Here's your dummy, you seem to have spat it out...


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SmokeyTA wrote:yeah but who cares about them, they are rubbish :wink:


That's more like it , a bit of honesty , you should get a job at the RFL , then we'd all know where we stand






kcab sfrawdder



Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity

Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike




SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

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Starbug wrote:That's more like it , a bit of honesty , you should get a job at the RFL , then we'd all know where we stand


I thought you knew...

Starbug wrote:Yes we are crap and will remain in the crap league forever...


But going back to the issue, planning for SL at this stage is naive unless someone with a huge wad of money comes forward. (And I don't know if that will happen the global downturn is allegedly hitting the south worse than the UK.)

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