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| Flanagan’s yellow card was critical. He’s one of our experienced (streetwise) players. We’d have had a better chance of closing the game out with him on the pitch. I thought he’d taken a high shot, but Kear described it as a tip tackle? First time I’ve seen someone carded for complaining about a dangerous tackle they’ve received.
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| He was carded for the scrap that followed the high shot.
Flanagan is the last player I ever want to see on the pitch in a game like that because the bloke has absolutely zero composure.
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| Quote ="roger daly"I know one player who doesn’t have that attitude and knows you have to give everything to get the rewards you want'"
I would hope I'm known enough on here to say what I think, regardless of who it annoys or offends. I don't say thing to make people feel good, I'm always honest.
I haven't seen Elliot play much this year at all. I can't comment on his performances or attitude from a first hand POV.
But what I will say is that all I see for him on here and social media is praise. Some of that no doubt is because you're here and people want to make you feel good about your lad. But I don't for a minute think all of it is. There's a few people on here whose opinion I respect and trust, and they said he's playing well, I believe them. I've also seen enough of him at previous teams (London & Sheffield mainly) to form my own opinion of him as a person and a player, and I have always rated him. I don't for a minute think that he has that attitude. Much the same I can say for a couple of other players (Steve Crossley for example I can't see ever taking that way of thinking).
I think the attitude issue is more something from the club itself than the players. The faces in the media that talk like the club is still a huge deal. And yes I'm sure there's a couple of players who still think they're billy big bollox (Chisholm seems to be the popular opinion from those on here).
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| Just switched Super League show on and John Kear & Leon Pryce are the guests. I've missed most of it, but anyone watched it all? Was there any mention/banter about the Sunday result?
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| Regardless of who's on here or not,if Elliot Minchella plays bad then it will not be brushed under the carpet,but that's not the case is it?Anyone who has watched RL for longer than two minutes can see what we need,it's now up to Kear to steer this ship to promotion with the players he sees before him.Get a game plan in place,set a platform and sharpen up the execution,cut out the mistakes and complete your sets without giving cheap yards/possession away.He has the players,it's now up to him to prove he is the man to take the BULLS back to where they belong.
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2" take the BULLS back to where they belong.'"
Can people please stop posting rubbish like this? No wonder we're hated by fans of so many other clubs. This attitude of entitlement is just completely wrong. Cut it out.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Can people please stop posting rubbish like this? No wonder we're hated by fans of so many other clubs. This attitude of entitlement is just completely wrong. Cut it out.'"
Ha Ha--is that all you have to worry about?We've actually been HATED since the reformation in 1964,nothing to do with ENTITLEMENT as it's my opinion that the BULLS and their fans belong in Super League and let's put it on the LINE,Super League needs a successful BULLS team,attendance wise and financial/COMMERCIAL wise,FACT!
Only my opinion and it's a two way street,not entitlement as you say.
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2"Ha Ha--is that all you have to worry about?We've actually been HATED since the reformation in 1964,nothing to do with ENTITLEMENT as it's my opinion that the BULLS and their fans belong in Super League and let's put it on the LINE,Super League needs a successful BULLS team,attendance wise and financial/COMMERCIAL wise,FACT!
Only my opinion and it's a two way street,not entitlement as you say.'"
Oh how we laarfed!
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| Assuming we meet Workington again in the final playoff game, how many other pro games would be on that weekend? What I'm getting at, is if there are only a couple of other games on, would the RFL appoint one of their SL refs to our game?
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| Quote ="Highlander"Assuming we meet Workington again in the final playoff game, how many other pro games would be on that weekend? What I'm getting at, is if there are only a couple of other games on, would the RFL appoint one of their SL refs to our game?'"
I wouldn't count on it. They might give them all the day off. As I'm sure you agree we need to be able to win regardless of the ref.
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| Quote ="madasmcmadammcmad2"Ha Ha--is that all you have to worry about?We've actually been HATED since the reformation in 1964,nothing to do with ENTITLEMENT as it's my opinion that the BULLS and their fans belong in Super League and let's put it on the LINE,Super League needs a successful BULLS team,attendance wise and financial/COMMERCIAL wise,FACT!
Only my opinion and it's a two way street,not entitlement as you say.'"
You know that by putting "FACT", that negates you saying it's just your opinion?
Incidentally Super League hasn't had a successfull Bulls team in quite some time now. Does it still exist?
Would Super League have better attendances and clubs be making a bit more money if the Bulls were in it? Probably. But the idea that it "NEEDS" the Bulls is utterly ludicrous. Much like last year when people were saying the Championship NEEDED Bradford and they couldn't be relegated. It's still there.
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| Quote ="Highlander"Assuming we meet Workington again in the final playoff game, how many other pro games would be on that weekend? What I'm getting at, is if there are only a couple of other games on, would the RFL appoint one of their SL refs to our game?'"
Scott Mikalauskas was the referee for last year's League 1 Playoff Final, if that helps give an idea.
I believe the Million Pound Game and the Super League Playoff Semi Finals would be the same weekend.
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| I've just about got over the game now so will offer my two pennorth.
There were loads of reasons why we lost. In no particular order I reckon the main ones were:
* A worrying lack of speed and movement or fluidity in attack. I like the idea of beating up the opposition with drives but they need to think the ball may be passed or it is easy to defend. We didn't pass i out enough, and seemed worryingly static an pedestrian with way too few runners and options. Easy to defend.
* Panic and an inability to execute. Prime examples were the holding down, yes it was a clear sinbin but how did we not score? Worse, the 3 man overlap when we again panicked and unforgivably screwed it up with a forward pass, when we were queuing up to walk the ball in.
* In the face of incompetent officials, having nobody on the field who could take a lead and overcome Worky's grubby tactics and endless aggravation and laying on. It was by a distance the most stop-start, ty spectacle with disruption every 30 seconds, and we were (as Kear observed) definitely "old manned".
I don't understand trying to use 3 halfbacks. Keyes has been good all year so what message does it send to any of them if they are spelled like forwards? Pick your halfbacks and they know they have 80 minutes. It didn't work.
The most disappointing thing for me was the overall impression of speed and agility. Despite having a very young side, Workington just always looked the more lively, and seemed to make great inroads and disrupt our defence far more than we theirs. I hoped we'd come out in the second half and start to play, but in fact, Workington remained on top.
And yes, had we not blown it, we could easily have won, and certainly we didn't get much rub either, but to me overall Worky, who have the double over us, just out-enthused us and showed more ability to think and create. I'm not here to slag Worky - like Kear I don't give a toss, I'm talking about the Bulls, but its not the result, is more that we didn't play like we should be playing at this stage, at home, in a key game, and we were unable to cope with a game plan that was reasonably predictable.
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