With respect you've mentioned "lack of funds" at every slight negative story. Rejecting JB's plans could literally mean anything. we can't afford them, differing of opinion etc it depends what they were and the cost. I wish JB well at HKR, as another poster said he has a blank canvas. But my god he has a task on there that is a long term project (he's done wonders here but he still had good foundations which were set up by Mcnamara) I dont think they've brought anyone through since their cost-cutting merger with FC. Lawler I thinks the only one. The city of Hull academy were thumped 82-0 by Wigan the other day too. A lot of work to do there. No doubt he's up to the challenge there.

If we replace JB with the guy from Widnes I'll be happy enough.

And I think there inlies our biggest problem

Widnes hae brought some cracking kids through last few years, and especially last year leading into this. There are far far far worse super league clubs. I reckon only Saints, Wigan, Leeds (to an extent as they have brought through but nowhere near their usual quality) and Huddersfield (not withstanding where some of their kids have come from) have brought through more than Widnes, barring us obviously

Also remembering Widnes have to compete with arguably the two best academies in the country in Saints & Wigan, plus Warrington who can throw money at young players on their door step.

Warrington and Leeds seem to be keen to snap up any promising Widnes youngsters. Sounds familiar.

Fair enough, my bad.

Wasn't a dig back mate, just an observation. As Bullseye put above considering who they compete with too I think they have done ok. With dwindling participations at junior level across the country I reckon the job of enticing youngsters will be even harder for any club