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| Quote ="Pyrah123"Oakes is 2 year tbh a lot of clubs do it like this'"
Yeah they do, certainly in the Championship. Leigh announced a ton of players the other day and I think most, if not all, were on 1 year deals.
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| Quote ="Pyrah123"Oakes is 2 year tbh a lot of clubs do it like this'"
Indeed, so is Jordan Lilley, though they signed prior to the new management taking over, so don't count as 'new'.
Though, much like our new management, I was on a surreal flight of whimsy when I did that post about being cynical.
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| Quote ="nestegg"We are principally interested in the latter and not the former. There has already been far too much '[itaken[/i' from the Bulls in recent years.
We also want to see folk introduced to the club who espouse two core values - honesty and integrity. Such values have we believe been bereft in respect of the Bulls ownership (and within the RFL hierarchy) for many years.
When (or if) we get the opportunity we will share our vision with all and sundry. At this time, at least in regard to [iour [/i[iconsortium's[/i specific plans, we prefer to keep our cards fairly close to our chests.
BTW, and apologies if this is old news, but one of our RFL insiders has informed us that Ralph Rimmer appears to be on the verge of deciding to commission a=#4000BF formal public inquiry into recent events at the Bulls etc. The view in the RFL is that if Ralph doesn't commission an inquiry in the near future then his hand could be forced by the Tier 2 and Tier 3 clubs when they all meet up shortly - we think they are all due to meet up in Doncaster. Regardless, we aver that should an inquiry be commissioned it would largely prove to be no more than a long, drawn out smokescreen, and could simply prove to be a distraction as opposed to a solution.
A different and far more direct approach is required. Watch this space.'"
Interesting, Didn't you tell Hapetobehere that there was no interest in an inquiry from other clubs?
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| Why are for ok calling for a independent lately nquiry for what s happened over the past five years as opposed to all the years since we first went into administration?
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| As a very concerned Bulls supporter I've been reading with huge interest over the last 3 months.
Bulls4champs - You appear to be asking an interesting question but can you clarify -
Are you making reference to an enquiry going back only five years?
Are you asking why it doesnt go back further?
Where have you got the idea it would only go back 5 yrs?
When you put OK are you suggesting Omar is now asking for an enquiry?
I suggest from what has been posted already that Nestegg might be the ones to ask. You might want to wait for them to respond. They do seem to have at least a little finger on the pulse.
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| Things change again with Kimberley Stather resigning as a director of BBBBB Ltd, but remaining as the PWSC, and Mark Kilgallon and Sandra Wood appointed directors. Still no sign of Nige......
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| Quote ="Front Row Grizzly"As a very concerned Bulls supporter I've been reading with huge interest over the last 3 months.
Bulls4champs - You appear to be asking an interesting question but can you clarify -
Are you making reference to an enquiry going back only five years?
Are you asking why it doesnt go back further?
Where have you got the idea it would only go back 5 yrs?
When you put OK are you suggesting Omar is now asking for an enquiry?
I suggest from what has been posted already that Nestegg might be the ones to ask. You might want to wait for them to respond. They do seem to have at least a little finger on the pulse.'"
No, OK is a typing error. It meant to say folk, but it came out wrong.
What I am asking is this. Why are some folk asking for a inquiry for the past 5 years, as I have seen of social media?
I am wandering if they should be asking from further back?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"No, OK is a typing error. It meant to say folk, but it came out wrong.
What I am asking is this. Why are some folk asking for a inquiry for the past 5 years, as I have seen of social media?
I am wandering if they should be asking from further back?'"
We don't go on conventional social media platforms mate, but we can make two points re the above:
1) Any inquiry needs to go back to say mid 2011 - a few months prior to when Nigel Wood and his allegedly dodgy RFL buddy, Richard 'Posh Boy' Lewis, elected to buy the Odsal head lease off Hood 'for the good of the game'. Shortly after the head lease re-assignment the RFL said to the BBC on 24 January 2012, and we quote:
=#4000BF[i"This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport's most famous stadia," [size=85and[/size
"Odsal is famous throughout the world. It would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost." [/i
So eight years later where are we? The stadium has been (allegedly purposefully) run into the ground by the RFL. The South Bank stadium is apparently on the point of collapse. The key head lease clause requiring RL to be played at Odsal was rendered null and void in late Spring 2019, and shortly thereafter it is no coincidence that the Bulls left Odsal (and Bradford) based on largely fictitious reasons. All this whilst the Council's CE - Kersten England ([i[size=85from Scotland[/size[/i) - in recent times sat back and sipped complimentary drinks etc in the crumbling South Bank.
It is we allege a disgrace.
2) In any event as said previously any inquiry will in all likelihood be a long drawn out whitewash. A more direct approach to meaningfully address the Bulls fans many legitimate grievances re Odsal etc is required. In doing so a positive, truly independent and fair outcome should materialise. Watch this space.
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| Quote ="nestegg"We don't go on conventional social media platforms mate, but we can make two points re the above:
1) Any inquiry needs to go back to say mid 2011 - a few months prior to when Nigel Wood and his allegedly dodgy RFL buddy, Richard 'Posh Boy' Lewis, elected to buy the Odsal head lease off Hood 'for the good of the game'. Shortly after the head lease re-assignment the RFL said to the BBC on 24 January 2012, and we quote:
=#4000BF[i"This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport's most famous stadia," [size=85and[/size
"Odsal is famous throughout the world. It would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost." [/i
So eight years later where are we? The stadium has been (allegedly purposefully) run into the ground by the RFL. The South Bank stadium is apparently on the point of collapse. The key head lease clause requiring RL to be played at Odsal was rendered null and void in late Spring 2019, and shortly thereafter it is no coincidence that the Bulls left Odsal (and Bradford) based on largely fictitious reasons. All this whilst the Council's CE - Kersten England ([i[size=85from Scotland[/size[/i) - in recent times sat back and sipped complimentary drinks etc in the crumbling South Bank.
It is we allege a disgrace.
2) In any event as said previously any inquiry will in all likelihood be a long drawn out whitewash. A more direct approach to meaningfully address the Bulls fans many legitimate grievances re Odsal etc is required. In doing so a positive, truly independent and fair outcome should materialise. Watch this space.'"
So effectively, we need to allow full retribution to clear the decks prior to a complete restart, formed by investment from a new Board?
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| who gives a damn about Odsal? The real foundations of a club are the team, not some ancient lump of rotting concrete. As with any financial crisis you liquidate any fixed assets you can, and that is what happened. it kept the team going a while. The real crime is that the time it bought was not put to good use reshaping the business, so once it was gone that opportunity was gone too. Who our props are going to be is much more vital to the future of the club than a rubbish dump on top of a windswept foggy hill. How is any of this going to help us sneak the away points at Fax this season?
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Interesting, Didn't you tell Hapetobehere that there was no interest in an inquiry from other clubs?'"
Reddog - if we did then we may well have been principally rererring to two Chamionship clubs, our very own, and the Rams. Mark Sawyer, as per recent press coverage, sees no particular purpose in any form of inquiry into what's gone on with the Bulls and Odsal etc over recent years.
We believe Mark has to all intents and purposes been directed to be a front man and smokescreen for the likes of Ralph, Karen, Simon and of course Nigel. He appears to be 'desperately' doing a grand job so far; or is he ?
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| Quote ="nestegg"We don't go on conventional social media platforms mate, but we can make two points re the above:
1) Any inquiry needs to go back to say mid 2011 - a few months prior to when Nigel Wood and his allegedly dodgy RFL buddy, Richard 'Posh Boy' Lewis, elected to buy the Odsal head lease off Hood 'for the good of the game'. Shortly after the head lease re-assignment the RFL said to the BBC on 24 January 2012, and we quote:
=#4000BF[i"This arrangement is absolutely the right thing to do because it safeguards the future of one of the sport's most famous stadia," [size=85and[/size
"Odsal is famous throughout the world. It would be a tragedy were the venue to be lost to the sport in the way that other evocative rugby league venues have already been lost." [/i
So eight years later where are we? The stadium has been (allegedly purposefully) run into the ground by the RFL. The South Bank stadium is apparently on the point of collapse. The key head lease clause requiring RL to be played at Odsal was rendered null and void in late Spring 2019, and shortly thereafter it is no coincidence that the Bulls left Odsal (and Bradford) based on largely fictitious reasons. All this whilst the Council's CE - Kersten England ([i[size=85from Scotland[/size[/i) - in recent times sat back and sipped complimentary drinks etc in the crumbling South Bank.
It is we allege a disgrace.
2) In any event as said previously any inquiry will in all likelihood be a long drawn out whitewash. A more direct approach to meaningfully address the Bulls fans many legitimate grievances re Odsal etc is required. In doing so a positive, truly independent and fair outcome should materialise. Watch this space.'"
Which part of the stadium is the South bank is it the curved building on stilts
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| Quote ="snowie"Which part of the stadium is the South bank is it the curved building on stilts'"
It is
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| So some of us are believing Ralph Rimjob is involved?
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"So some of us are believing Ralph Rimjob is involved?'"
The way it's been heading the last few years, I wouldn't be shocked if someone told me Gary Glitter & Rose West were part of the consortium.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"The way it's been heading the last few years, I wouldn't be shocked if someone told me Gary Glitter &=#FF0000 Rose West were part of the consortium.'"
League Express are saying Rose is denying this as she's better off where she is.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"The way it's been heading the last few years, I wouldn't be shocked if someone told me that Gary Glitter was part of the Wood / Sawyer consortium.'"
Maybe so, but remember that all that glitters may not necessarily be gold.
That said, some allegedly corrupt folk don't care less about the glitter, all they appear to care about is the pot of gold at the end of Stadium Road.
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| Quote ="nestegg"Maybe so, but remember that all that glitters may not necessarily be gold.
That said, some allegedly corrupt folk don't care less about the glitter, all they appear to care about is the pot of gold at the end of Stadium Road.'"
As the said pot of gold is the land and surrounds that it is known as Odsal belongs to BMDC its going to be iron pyrites, unless you're now saying the Council will be up for selling the land??
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| Quote ="Blotto"As the said pot of gold is [ithe land and surrounds that it is known as Odsa[/il belongs to BMDC its going to be iron pyrites, unless you're now saying the Council will be up for selling the land??'"
Yes of course Blotto, the freeholder is BMDC, but for several reasons that fact currently has little bearing on our hypothesis re the RFL owned head lease.
If you read the 'Odsal stadium' head lease we are advised that it paints a different picture, AND more importantly a potential money making opportunity for the RFL [iet al[/i. Of course it is conceivable that our advisor in this regard may be mistaken.
As per usual, we don't wish to say more due to legal reasons.
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| So now your hinting that for the RFL to purchase the lease the Council sweetened the deal by allowing more flexibility than previously? Probably in the knowledge that there are several mechanisms at Local and Government level that would stall any redevelopments outside the Stadium use! l wouldn't worry too much about it!
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| Yet more if's than buts, innuendos and supposition, as opposed to evidence supported commentary.I want to believe, but too much 'can't tell won't tell' is not best serving any informative purpose mate.
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| Quote ="Blotto"So now your hinting that for the RFL to purchase the lease the Council sweetened the deal by allowing more flexibility than previously? Probably in the knowledge that there are several mechanisms at Local and Government level that would stall any redevelopments outside the Stadium use! l wouldn't worry too much about it!'"
In part agree. Sport England and the BMDC's recently revised playing fields strategy being just two examples thereof. But money (or the potential thereof) can often talk, and has on occasions been known to overcome even the most stubborn of obstacles, inc statutory obstacles.
NW is well connected etc.
We may of course be mistaken. Happy to discuss further.
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| It's the final week for Dickie Dunns. I expect things to accelerate somewhat before Christmas as the bulldozers move in 
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| Quote ="Scarey71"It's the final week for Dickie Dunns. I expect things to acceperate somewhat before Christmas as the bulldozers move in
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It's a shame as it's not likely, but the Richard Dunns site would be perfect for a community stadium
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"It's a shame as it's not likely, but the Richard Dunns site would be perfect for a community stadium'"
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