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Reason for Special measures?
Poll ended at Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:00 pm
This is a fair and proportional response regarding RFL concerns over our 2020 finances. 40%  40%  [ 4 ]
This is excessive from the RFL as we've cut our cloth by leaving Odsal which has upset them. 30%  30%  [ 3 ]
This is the RFL forcing expenditure reduction by stopping us signing players. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Chalmers refused to sign the lease agreement. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Chalmers is the Chairman/owner and the RFL are trying to force him out/sell 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
A mixture of all of the above..... 30%  30%  [ 3 ]
Total votes : 10
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 Post subject: Re: Reason for special measures?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:06 pm 
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Tricky2309 wrote:On the basis that it is reported player bonuses are being paid today out of yesterday’s gate receipts, I would say it seems like it has nothing to do with you leaving odsal, especially considering the fact you were in special measures before chalmers announced it


So you choose to believe League Weekly who said they were plans for a 15000 seater stadium on Richard Dunns last week and we have paid wages late before. Both are incorrect.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:13 pm 
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bulls2487 wrote:So you choose to believe League Weekly who said they were plans for a 15000 seater stadium on Richard Dunns last week and we have paid wages late before. Both are incorrect.


It’s a pretty specific thing for them to report, and Chalmers glossed over the special measures in his latest article. Take that along with the fact it had previously been stated you were already in special measures as you were blocked from signing a player then it seems a reasonable view to conclude that the speciial measures weren’t connected to leaving odsal

In addition JK was quoted as saying the first he knew that you were in special measures was when he read about it in an online article - the CCJs etc

Lots of smoke with which to think a fire is about to start

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:24 pm 
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What's this about the RFL going cap in hand to Davy, Hudgell and Carter?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:26 pm 
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Lots of smoke created by lick-spittle journos who won't ask the RFL the proper questions such

How did you pass the Bulls fit financially to run a reserve team not 2 months before changing your mind?
Why did you change your mind soon as it looked like Chalmers was leaving?
Why did you offer the club to Chalmers before Admin closed?
Who keeps whispering in the League Weekly Twitter-rats ear? Really, who would from the Bulls say to any twitter-rat that they are paying players bonuses from yesterdays gate?
Why did you take out a massive loan against the leasehold in May 2018 and is this the reason you are getting sh1tty? You're financially as inept as the previous Bulls regimes and have tried to put the squeeze on Chalmers and he told you to fek off what are you going to do now?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:27 pm 
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Bulls4Champs wrote:What's this about the RFL going cap in hand to Davy, Hudgell and Carter?


They offered them the lease presumably in an attempt to pressurise Chalmers into signing, saving their face.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:29 pm 
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Scarey71 wrote:Lots of smoke created by lick-spittle journos who won't ask the RFL the proper questions such

How did you pass the Bulls fit financially to run a reserve team not 2 months before changing your mind?
Why did you change your mind soon as it looked like Chalmers was leaving?
Why did you offer the club to Chalmers before Admin closed?
Who keeps whispering in the League Weekly Twitter-rats ear? Really, who would from the Bulls say to any twitter-rat that they are paying players bonuses from yesterdays gate?
Why did you take out a massive loan against the leasehold in May 2018 and is this the reason you are getting sh1tty? You're financially as inept as the previous Bulls regimes and have tried to put the squeeze on Chalmers and he told you to fek off what are you going to do now?


That’s certainly an alternative way of looking it, but JK was quoted re lack of knowledge of special measures when clearly club knew and then there’s the CCJs which can’t be blamed on the RFL

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:29 pm 
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I think Mr Rimmer feels he has been proverbially bent over and shafted by AC - at least, the statement released would suggest his rim is sore from said shafting.






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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:30 pm 
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Scarey71 wrote:They offered them the lease presumably in an attempt to pressurise Chalmers into signing, saving their face.


Recentlly was it? I didn't not recall reading about it tbh.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:15 pm 
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Tricky2309 wrote:That’s certainly an alternative way of looking it, but JK was quoted re lack of knowledge of special measures when clearly club knew and then there’s the CCJs which can’t be blamed on the RFL


It is but it's a logical one in a very strange situation.

£4k of CCJs ... lots of confirmation that other clubs have them but no other clubs named.

The special measures mentioned by one of said twitter-rats referred to the RFL not sanctioning a contract when Bradford were 'trying to sign a Super League player' (note the leak specified no name) but that categorically didn't happen according to their chosen one Chalmers himself. Their chosen one...The RFL's man. Handpicked by Rimmer if we are to believe Chalmers latest column. As far as I can recall it was not referred to as 'Special Measures' at the time.

What we know is that recruitment for 2020 was complete in early July but strangely Bradford said they wouldn't make any announcements until mid Aug. That to me suggests that Chalmers saw this coming and knew full well what the RFL would do when he confirmed he'd walk away from Odsal. The RFL's man goes rogue and suddenly August is international smoke everywhere day....

Unfortunately, these would be journos won't ask the RFL outright because they'll lose their access to the 'scoops' but there is a lot of questions THEY need to answer before tuning on Bradford.

Start with 'Why did you contact Chalmers and ask him and Lowe to take the club?' then follow with 'Why did you make the club restart in the Championship on -12 and not start from scratch in League 1' and take it from there probably ending with 'If as you say Bradford are financially unstable, and we've no reason to question your judgement, why are you not endorsing a move to Dewsbury that will save them roughly £500k per annum?'

At this point, I wouldn't trust Rimmer as far as I could throw his predecessor....Everything, from the first intervention of the RFL has been down to them.

They spouted about the precious lease and preserving the dump for RL (and we all swallowed that BS - really, who'd want the place?).

They choose Khan then shafted him to the tune of half the funding, then when he failed (big shock that one - no RL knowledge and financially one hand tied behind his back) they shafted him again (though he took his case to court and won)

They picked Green, that went well... but perhaps not well enough for their liking so this time they hand picked their chairman using their veto to over rule the administrator and stop Thorne buying the club out of administration.

Meanwhile they have steadfastly refused to sell the lease - thereby stopping any serious interest in the club, have borrowed against it and then devalued it. Now they are left with a hole in the ground, no income and council tax to pay and they will need to keep it up to 'standard' to keep up their stated aim of preserving it for Rugby League.

I am not saying Chalmers is the messiah or even a naughty boy...but the constant Bradford, Bradford, Bradford whilst the RFL pontificate about finances and people who usually pillory the RFL for their loses suddenly sit and nod sagely in agreement is utterly bewildering.

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Bulls4Champs wrote:Recentlly was it? I didn't not recall reading about it tbh.


I'll try dig out. But IIRC it was in one of the first announcements of us leaving.

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