Bull Mania wrote:I would also imagine thr RFL may be alerted and look into some betting for a drop goal.
I don’t think this will be a problem. You’d be lucky to find betting on the match result to be available with most bookies never mind whether a drop goal would be scored etc.
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Keyes wasn't meant to be the answer, he's a young lad given his chance, who's just been pitched in at the sharp end and has had a very respectable season. I would expect that one year older, wiser, bigger and uglier, he will be a better and more complete proposition. He's shown more than enough to be confident that he will progress into a very decent player.
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:Keyes wasn't meant to be the answer, he's a young lad given his chance, who's just been pitched in at the sharp end and has had a very respectable season. I would expect that one year older, wiser, bigger and uglier, he will be a better and more complete proposition. He's shown more than enough to be confident that he will progress into a very decent player.
Been the best of the 3 for me this year. He has contributed a heck of a lot for me and he is a player we should be looking to have around for a long time
Ferocious Aardvark wrote:Keyes wasn't meant to be the answer, he's a young lad given his chance, who's just been pitched in at the sharp end and has had a very respectable season. I would expect that one year older, wiser, bigger and uglier, he will be a better and more complete proposition. He's shown more than enough to be confident that he will progress into a very decent player.
Yes, I agree with your summation of Joe Keyes. I'm just not sure that the current combination of the 3 halves are the answer when ( if ) we get back into the Championship. All 3 players display moments of genius, but I don't have confidence in any one over the others, which leaves me a little...meh.... If we do go up, then I would like to see Keyes and Chiz teamed with an older head as anchor, and rotated depending on the opposition. Unfortunately, for me, no room for Lilley unless we remain in this division next year (God help us).
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I think the signing of Lilley has been disruptive, and there hasn't seemed to be a plan what exactly to do with him once we signed him. I can't see Keyes at this point in his young career wanting to be in and out as a mere halfback option, and I can't see Lilley wanting to be cover for injuries. When Lilley has played this spell and last when on loan, tbh I don't think he's cracked any pots, but anyway you need your starting halfbacks to be the same all year, except the occasional rest and of course injuries. i don't think rotating 2 perm from 3 has ever worked anywhere. Chisholm has taken a bit of stick for being a bit mercurial, but it is obvious he can do stuff Lilley can't and adds a considerable threat that Lilley doesn't, so I'm wondering what the plan is. Maybe i shouldn't assume there is one?
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Ferocious Aardvark wrote:I think the signing of Lilley has been disruptive, and there hasn't seemed to be a plan what exactly to do with him once we signed him. I can't see Keyes at this point in his young career wanting to be in and out as a mere halfback option, and I can't see Lilley wanting to be cover for injuries. When Lilley has played this spell and last when on loan, tbh I don't think he's cracked any pots, but anyway you need your starting halfbacks to be the same all year, except the occasional rest and of course injuries. i don't think rotating 2 perm from 3 has ever worked anywhere. Chisholm has taken a bit of stick for being a bit mercurial, but it is obvious he can do stuff Lilley can't and adds a considerable threat that Lilley doesn't, so I'm wondering what the plan is. Maybe i shouldn't assume there is one?
I think Lilley was signed to keep Chisholm on his toes.
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.
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Bullseye wrote:I think Lilley was signed to keep Chisholm on his toes.
I don't think it was that.
I reckon Leeds knew he'd be getting limited time there in 2019 so decided to put the feelers out for a year long loan. Frees up cap space if nothing else.
We've agreed to take him on either as a favour to Leeds, or because we value him as a squad player, or because we already knew at the time that one of our current halves would be leaving at the end of the season.
The prospect of seeing Lilley as one of our halves next season is genuinely making me hesitate on getting a season ticket. That's how much I don't rate him.
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Heard we have been looking at other halfbacks too but nothing concrete. With Chisholm OOC then I can see why if we can't come to a deal with him. If you play Chisholm we need a halfback paired with him that can follow a gameplan and build pressure by taking the right options, a good short kicking game is a must.
"If you start listening to the fans it won't be long before you're sitting with them," - Wayne Bennett.
I think Chizzy had a much more structured game on Sunday. Quite a few assists and a good short kicking game. He seemed much more involved and his attitude was great all game. For me the half back pairing has got to be Chizzy and Keyes.
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