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| Quote Offside Monkey="Offside Monkey"Is it not harder for youngsters these days though, with the extra conditioning that the senior players have?
Also, those players were all very physically strong individuals.'"
Does not seem to impair the Aussies who have a fine record of developing excellent young players of the calibre of Inglis, Folau etc etc...
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| Quote eddiewaringsflatcap="eddiewaringsflatcap"Thanks for the insight.
Do people actually remember Scully was already looking the dogs do-dahs in the Warrington team at 17, though? The same with Judas at the same age when he was at Saints, and again with Cunningham who began to look a star form 18 in a struglging outfit (circa 93/94).
You could tell they were a cut above.
It was a world of difference toa youngster carving his way in reserve rugby. OK you can point to late starters like Long, but generally you can tell who the 'real deals' will be as opposed to very good club players.'"
I don't think anyone thought he would be better than scully but a very good replacement.
The is certain players from the super league era that I don't think we will ever replace proper, I.e long, scully, cunningam and joynt to name but a few
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| Quote Harborne Saint="Harborne Saint"Complete waffle
You can't have team full of highly noticeable impact players and never will under the system of a salry cap.
Wilkin is a great player for us. Very solid and dependable. He compared well with other 13s in SL so what more do you want?'"
Which part is complete waffle?
I have clearly stated that in my opinion Wilkin isn't performing well enough. No amount of drum beating on here is going to change my opinion.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"Which part is complete waffle?
I have clearly stated that in my opinion Wilkin isn't performing well enough. No matter of drum beating on here is going to change my opinion.'"
I agree
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| And just to add to all that Gilly carnt stand him either. 
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| Wilkin is a good player, but anyone who thought that he was ever fit to lace Sculthorpes boots were either delusional, or comparing him to the crocked second rower that he became post age 27. There isn't a loose forward currently in the British game that come anywhere near him in his prime.
His form will pick up in the summer, and we have other options coming through the academy to keep him on his toes.
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| Quote Smurf="Smurf"Wilkin is a good player, but anyone who thought that he was ever fit to lace Sculthorpes boots were either delusional, or comparing him to the crocked second rower that he became post age 27. There isn't a loose forward currently in the British game that come anywhere near him in his prime.
His form will pick up in the summer, and we have other options coming through the academy to keep him on his toes.'"
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| Quote joe d saint="joe d saint"joe westerman'"
As good as Sculthorpe in his prime?
Give over.
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| Quote Stirlingshire Saint="Stirlingshire Saint"As good as Sculthorpe in his prime?
Give over.'"
No one was as good as Sculthorpe in his prime.
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| 3rd man cheap shot merchant who runs the dummy for 10 minutes after he has dished it out and hopes everyone has forgotten about it,also a very bad loser,i was in a hotel in leeds last week for the WCC and heard him slagging off his beloved Hull KR to a couple of his hangers on at the bar saying they were garbage and only beat saints as the ref robbed them,made himself look a real fool
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| Quote Corky Butcher="Corky Butcher"3rd man cheap shot merchant who runs the dummy for 10 minutes after he has dished it out and hopes everyone has forgotten about it,also a very bad loser,i was in a hotel in leeds last week for the WCC and heard him slagging off his beloved Hull KR to a couple of his hangers on at the bar saying they were garbage and only beat saints as the ref robbed them,made himself look a real fool'"
Thank you for that expert analysis.
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| youre welcome............spoon
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| Quote Corky Butcher="Corky Butcher"3rd man cheap shot merchant who runs the dummy for 10 minutes after he has dished it out and hopes everyone has forgotten about it,also a very bad loser,i was in a hotel in leeds last week for the WCC and heard him slagging off his beloved Hull KR to a couple of his hangers on at the bar saying they were garbage and only beat saints as the ref robbed them,made himself look a real fool'"
I actually think Wilkin needs to improve in terms of on the field.
It sounds like his analysis of the game off the field is spot on though.
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| ha ha ha, to everyone who called wilkin, that try was for you!
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| Quote Saint Simon="Saint Simon"ha ha ha, to everyone who called wilkin, that try was for you!'"
Ha ha that does prove what people have been sayin!
He great against the poor teams and when we putting big scores on teams.
Let's see him against Leeds next week
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| Jon had a very good game tonight I thought.
Quality performance from a quality player!
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| Quote THELAST3YARDS="THELAST3YARDS"Jon had a very good game tonight I thought.
Quality performance from a quality player!'"
It was only Salford mate. 
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| Quote Blobbynator="Blobbynator"It was only Salford mate.
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Can only play against what you're up against
He did the job tonight!
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| Quote THELAST3YARDS="THELAST3YARDS"icon_razz.gif
Can only play against what you're up against
He did the job tonight!'"
True, but I hope he saves some of that for when we play Leeds on April 5th. 
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| Quote St pete="St pete"Ha ha that does prove what people have been sayin!
He great against the poor teams and when we putting big scores on teams.
Let's see him against Leeds next week'"
He had one of his best games for us in the Semi final victory last season, over Leeds. Other notable performances from him were in the playoffs against Bradford and Leeds. He's not a flat track bully.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"He had one of his best games for us in the Semi final victory last season, over Leeds. Other notable performances from him
were in the playoffs against Bradford and Leeds. He's not a flat track bully.'"
He that good you can count how many good games he played.
Must admit I did expect him to play well to night but I doubt he will make any impact next week at all.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"He that good you can count how many good games he played.
Must admit I did expect him to play well to night but I doubt he will make any impact next week at all.'"
Jesus, so now you lot have forced Francis Meli to go into hiding in the mountains in New Zealand, you are going to pick on Jon Wilkin?
Instead of having a go at Wilkin when we get a pasting next week, why not direct it towards the board, who can do no wrong, yet who have cost us the last 2 Super League titles (3 this year) through the stupid (lack of) recruitment policy.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"Jesus, so now you lot have forced Francis Meli to go into hiding in the mountains in New Zealand, you are going to pick on Jon Wilkin?
Instead of having a go at Wilkin when we get a pasting next week, why not direct it towards the board, who can do no wrong, yet who have cost us the last 2 Super League titles (3 this year) through the stupid (lack of) recruitment policy.'"
I think you should read the posts. Nobody is giving wilkin any stick, nobody saying he's not good.
What we saying is he could be better if he looks in the mirror and sees he ain't as good as he thinks he is.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I think you should read the posts. Nobody is giving wilkin any stick, nobody saying he's not good.
What we saying is he could be better if he looks in the mirror and sees he ain't as good as he thinks he is.'"
What makes you think he thinks he is a good as you think he thinks he is?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I think you should read the posts. Nobody is giving wilkin any stick, nobody saying he's not good.
What we saying is he could be better if he looks in the mirror and sees he ain't as good as he thinks he is.'"
If you were Jon Wilkin and you looked into the mirror, the only thing you would do is smile smugly. He's gorge 
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