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Scooter Nik wrote:I don't think anyone under rates The Kinks, most people who appreciate music of that generation appreciate the depth and ability of Ray Davies' songwriting, and KLF and SFA are hardly 'underated'. Possibly slightly forgotten about, but not underated.

IMHO anyway.

For me?

The Selecter
The Cramps
Sham 69

All three were at least partially responsible for the creation of a new genre (2-Tone, Psychobilly and Oi! respectively) but all are overlooked in favour of later contributors to those scenes.

GEvans75 wrote:In your opinion?

Mine are...

13th Floor Elevators
Country Joe and the Fish
The Seeds
KLF
The Beta Band
Super Furry Animals
Suicide
Kinks
The Fall
Glasvegas

GEvans75 wrote:Scooter nik

Kinks albums are massively underated, just because people sing a long to Lola and Waterloo Sunset doesn't make them not underrated.

KLF pioneers who are more remembered for burning £1,000.000 than there music.

SFA are underated, critically liked but don't sell many records.

JINJER wrote:Love the Kinks album track wise but hate most of the commercial stuff, can't do with the best of the Kinks stuff!
Sham 69 I loved but unfortunately the dicks that followed them caused em to pack in!

Author:	GEvans75 [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:49 am ]
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In your opinion? Mine are... 13th Floor Elevators Country Joe and the Fish The Seeds KLF The Beta Band Super Furry Animals Suicide Kinks The Fall Glasvegas

Author:	Son of Les [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:59 am ]
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I don't think anyone under rates The Kinks, most people who appreciate music of that generation appreciate the depth and ability of Ray Davies' songwriting, and KLF and SFA are hardly 'underated'. Possibly slightly forgotten about, but not underated. IMHO anyway. For me? The Selecter The Cramps Sham 69 All three were at least partially responsible for the creation of a new genre (2-Tone, Psychobilly and Oi! respectively) but all are overlooked in favour of later contributors to those scenes.

Author:	WIZEB [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:15 pm ]
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Scooter Nik wrote:I don't think anyone under rates The Kinks, most people who appreciate music of that generation appreciate the depth and ability of Ray Davies' songwriting, and KLF and SFA are hardly 'underated'. Possibly slightly forgotten about, but not underated. IMHO anyway. For me? The Selecter The Cramps Sham 69 All three were at least partially responsible for the creation of a new genre (2-Tone, Psychobilly and Oi! respectively) but all are overlooked in favour of later contributors to those scenes. The Hersham Boys played our town in c'79. Was stood outside the gig as I was only a boy and couldn't get in. Remember it for the scrapping that went on outside after the concert had finished mind. Pandemonium.

Author:	GEvans75 [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:17 pm ]
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Scooter nik Kinks albums are massively underated, just because people sing a long to Lola and Waterloo Sunset doesn't make them not underrated. KLF pioneers who are more remembered for burning £1,000.000 than there music. SFA are underated, critically liked but don't sell many records.

Author:	vastman [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:49 pm ]
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GEvans75 wrote:In your opinion? Mine are... 13th Floor Elevators Country Joe and the Fish The Seeds KLF The Beta Band Super Furry Animals Suicide Kinks The Fall Glasvegas The Kinks! Not sure they have ever been under rated ever. As long as I can remember and it's a while they have always been considered one of the best British bands of all time. People like Paul Weller and Blur and many others cite them as massive. True they don't get the sales and crowds that their contemporaries like the Stones and the Who receive but they sure do get the plaudits. If you want a really underated sixties band IMO it's the Small Faces. Slade are a band that gets bypassed - probably because of the truly ridiculous nature of the music/fashion scene at the time - they have some great non Xmas related tracks.

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Author:	vastman [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:52 pm ]
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GEvans75 wrote:Scooter nik Kinks albums are massively underated, just because people sing a long to Lola and Waterloo Sunset doesn't make them not underrated. KLF pioneers who are more remembered for burning £1,000.000 than there music. SFA are underated, critically liked but don't sell many records. That is because they were not a great album band - the Kinks record releases were erratic even by the standards of the time. Village Green is not bad for a concept album but not exceptional.

Author:	JINJER [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:15 pm ]
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Love the Kinks album track wise but hate most of the commercial stuff, can't do with the best of the Kinks stuff! Sham 69 I loved but unfortunately the dicks that followed them caused em to pack in!

Author:	vastman [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:27 pm ]
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JINJER wrote:Love the Kinks album track wise but hate most of the commercial stuff, can't do with the best of the Kinks stuff! Sham 69 I loved but unfortunately the dicks that followed them caused em to pack in! You probably know better than me just what a mess early Kinks releases were and pretty much all their early albums were "best of" or a hotch potch. Village Green was IMHO their first cohesive attempt at an album which is a few years after their contemporaries. Ray Davis abrassive nature didn't help.

Author:	John_D [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:41 pm ]
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Schizo Fun Addict. Heard a couple of tracks on a Fruits De Mer sampler about 7 years ago and loved it. There are a couple of bits on a popular video sharing website whose name might be ThouCylinder, but suffice to say they never made an impression. Indeed, typing this has just prompted me to order a couple of CDs.

Author:	Son of Les [ Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:37 pm ]
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Sorry, but Ray Davies is very widely recognised as being one of the best song writers this country has ever produced. Whether those songs are on albums or singles is immaterial in the context of this thread, the fact is that The Kinks are widely accepted as being one of the best bands of the sixties. Ditto The Small Faces for that matter, lesser geniuses than Davies, but still.... Perhaps it's because I'm day to day on the edge of a scene that thrives on the sixties music scene that I can see it, but I think - as stated above by Vastman - they're widely quoted as influences, Madness being another band that have regularly cited them as major players in their origins. I suspect that this is the crux of the matter though, if you're a fan of a particular music scene, then you're going to be more knowledgeable that someone who's just familiar with the name. I can't comment on KLF for this reason, but a mate reckons that their legacy is immense. I can't see it myself, but I'll take his word for it.

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