Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:02 pm
Once were Loiners
First Team Player
Joined: Dec 15 2021 Posts: 1261
Re Gannon, Holroyd and Simpson, like it or not hard decisions might have to be made at some point.
In the case of Gannon the question is not about how good he might be, but whether he should play at all. I know they are being ultra-careful until he's turned 21, but if he keeps getting put out of the game for long periods through head knocks, at some stage he and the club will have to think about him giving it up.
Simpson has missed a hell of a lot of rugby. These are key developmental years, so even assuming he comes back fit next season, he's way behind in terms of experience. Fingers crossed though.
Holroyd's just been a mess one way or another for some time. He's 23 and last season was the first time he's even got close to playing a full season. I'd hope he can improve a lot next year, his lack of punch with the ball is utterly weird to me, he's a big lad, perfect build for a prop and unlike Sangare he seems to move reasonably well. But again, promise or otherwise, at some stage he'll have to be let go if he can't play enough games at a decent quality.
These three are in our top 25, and while it sounds harsh, we can't keep hanging on waiting for players to get fit or find form. SL squads just aren't big enough for that and we've suffered for years from underperforming players hanging around way too long. I'm not saying jettison any of them now, but as rollin thunder says, renewal is another thing altogether.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:40 pm
ArthurClues
Club Captain
Joined: Jan 24 2020 Posts: 2670
Once were Loiners wrote:Re Gannon, Holroyd and Simpson, like it or not hard decisions might have to be made at some point.
In the case of Gannon the question is not about how good he might be, but whether he should play at all. I know they are being ultra-careful until he's turned 21, but if he keeps getting put out of the game for long periods through head knocks, at some stage he and the club will have to think about him giving it up.
Simpson has missed a hell of a lot of rugby. These are key developmental years, so even assuming he comes back fit next season, he's way behind in terms of experience. Fingers crossed though.
Holroyd's just been a mess one way or another for some time. He's 23 and last season was the first time he's even got close to playing a full season. I'd hope he can improve a lot next year, his lack of punch with the ball is utterly weird to me, he's a big lad, perfect build for a prop and unlike Sangare he seems to move reasonably well. But again, promise or otherwise, at some stage he'll have to be let go if he can't play enough games at a decent quality.
These three are in our top 25, and while it sounds harsh, we can't keep hanging on waiting for players to get fit or find form. SL squads just aren't big enough for that and we've suffered for years from underperforming players hanging around way too long. I'm not saying jettison any of them now, but as rollin thunder says, renewal is another thing altogether.
Actually he didn't say that. He said any player with a less than 50% appearance rate should be moved on "regardless of age or potential." There was no mention of end of contract. Of course number of appearances is a valuable gauge when it comes to contract renewal, but it's rash (and very expensive) to rush to judgement before then.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:11 pm
Neruda
Player Coach
Joined: Jul 15 2009 Posts: 705
rollin thunder wrote:Not quite what i said though is it? We shouldn’t be offering contract extensions though to Players are are hardly available for selection, thats utter madness and like i say thats why our cap is in a mess.
No, you said any player with less than 50% appearances should be sacked off. Not sure why you think kids like Simpson and Warren should be playing that many games even if fit tbh.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:33 pm
rollin thunder
International Star
Joined: Feb 15 2011 Posts: 4948
Neruda wrote:No, you said any player with less than 50% appearances should be sacked off. Not sure why you think kids like Simpson and Warren should be playing that many games even if fit tbh.
They can be playing reserves or in loan, not getting picked is not the same as being nit even being available, and to clarify Players who not been available for selection for more than 50% off the time over 2-3 seasons need to “not be renewed” or persuaded to move elsewhere unless they can get and stay fit.
I get the sensitivity over young players but Gannon Simpson never player and Holroyd has huge spells off the field, when is enough time, tough decisions are required.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 10:06 am
Sir Gregory ParsloeP
Fringe Player
Joined: Apr 12 2022 Posts: 902
On rapana, , he is a goal kicker but it would only make sense if either Hall is moving straight into the Corporate role or Handley is off to Catalan. As Arthur said could be clickbait, but the fact Bower has covered it gives it a bit more credence.
The only other reason I could think of is if Miller was looking to go back to Aus and we would use Rapana at FB. Given he’s 35 , it’s all a bit weird.
Miller and Mom are playing a lot better under Arthur.
On Holroyd and Gannon both are OOC at end of 2025, so decisions are coming. It would Be very sad if both were lost to concussion impacts. Simpson is squad number 28 and won’t be on much salary , he is still only 20 and was very promising. Let’s hope a good preseason kicks him on again
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