Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:07 am
Rixy
Player Coach
Joined: Apr 28 2008 Posts: 258 Location: When on Earth, North Tyneside.
Do we need another hooker? -
"The son of Leeds Rhinos coach Brad Arthur has been granted permission to speak to other clubs after a request to leave Parramatta Eels: the club Arthur himself coached until earlier this year.
Matt Arthur has played a handful of NRL games since making his debut, and is widely seen as a fine prospect within the game. However, the hooker requested to be let go from the final season of his contract with the Eels – and the club have now granted that release."
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:31 am
Exeter Rhino
International Board Member
Joined: May 28 2002 Posts: 7356 Location: Isca Dumnoniorum
The 9 position is already messy at the club, I'm not sure bringing in the son of the coach is going to help, even if it increases the likelihood of Arthur staying (which it may not).
Ackers seemed to start well but he's not looked good for a while. I don't think spelling him from the bench worked at all, but for whatever reason he doesn't look to be the dominant hooker we were hoping to lead the way with.
O'Connor is great for effort, but I think as a team we're not as fluid with him on instead of Ackers. Corey Johnson has shown glimpses in attack but he's also made some awful defensive contributions in the limited time he's played this season (e.g. letting players run through him at marker). I think we need to bite the bullet and let Johnson go.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:22 am
Trebor1
International Star
Joined: Mar 03 2017 Posts: 5830
Yeah Ackers will come good, he's had a very stop start time and off for a while with injury, he's no pack to get on the front foot with. I think even Cam Smith (the NRL great) wouldn't have looked his best playing alongside that shower of a pack.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:33 pm
Loiner at large
Club Captain
Joined: Oct 30 2019 Posts: 532
Trebor1 wrote:Yeah Ackers will come good, he's had a very stop start time and off for a while with injury, he's no pack to get on the front foot with. I think even Cam Smith (the NRL great) wouldn't have looked his best playing alongside that shower of a pack.
100% Leeds biggest issue is our props Oledski who some people are bagging because hes made a few mistakes probably because hes trying too hard is carrying our go forward on his own. We need 2 new props and the stats don't lie this season or previously.
Oledski
Games 16 Carries per game 14 Average metres 118 Average gain 8.5 Tackles 28
Lisone
Games 14 Carries 9 Metres 72 Av gain 8.04 Tackles 15
Sangare
15 Games Carries 7 Metres 55 Av gain 7.42 Tackles 18
Holroyd
5 Games 5 Carries 32 Metres 6.4 av gain 18 Tackles
So apart from Oledski our other props workrate is poor dont carry the ball enough their impact making yardage is negligible in Holroyd and Sangare case and they don't tackle enough. Fix that and ackers and Frawley look different players. If lose Mik for any length of time we are really in trouble.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:49 pm
Neruda
Player Coach
Joined: Jul 15 2009 Posts: 675
Loiner at large wrote:100% Leeds biggest issue is our props Oledski who some people are bagging because hes made a few mistakes probably because hes trying too hard is carrying our go forward on his own. We need 2 new props and the stats don't lie this season or previously.
Oledski
Games 16 Carries per game 14 Average metres 118 Average gain 8.5 Tackles 28
Lisone
Games 14 Carries 9 Metres 72 Av gain 8.04 Tackles 15
Sangare
15 Games Carries 7 Metres 55 Av gain 7.42 Tackles 18
Holroyd
5 Games 5 Carries 32 Metres 6.4 av gain 18 Tackles
So apart from Oledski our other props workrate is poor dont carry the ball enough their impact making yardage is negligible in Holroyd and Sangare case and they don't tackle enough. Fix that and ackers and Frawley look different players. If lose Mik for any length of time we are really in trouble.
Add in the averages for Eseh please, over/under bet 20 metres per game
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:48 pm
Barrie’s Glass Eye
Fringe Player
Joined: Apr 17 2022 Posts: 859
Loiner at large wrote:100% Leeds biggest issue is our props Oledski who some people are bagging because hes made a few mistakes probably because hes trying too hard is carrying our go forward on his own. We need 2 new props and the stats don't lie this season or previously.
Oledski
Games 16 Carries per game 14 Average metres 118 Average gain 8.5 Tackles 28
Lisone
Games 14 Carries 9 Metres 72 Av gain 8.04 Tackles 15
Sangare
15 Games Carries 7 Metres 55 Av gain 7.42 Tackles 18
Holroyd
5 Games 5 Carries 32 Metres 6.4 av gain 18 Tackles
So apart from Oledski our other props workrate is poor dont carry the ball enough their impact making yardage is negligible in Holroyd and Sangare case and they don't tackle enough. Fix that and ackers and Frawley look different players. If lose Mik for any length of time we are really in trouble.
Damning numbers. No doubt metered from the back row aren’t great either. Cam smith tops the tackle count which probably doesn’t help with his decision making in attack.
Be interesting to see if any of that work rate changes under Arthur where we might see the backs carry less.
I actually think Wallace would have been a good signing for us. Good business from Catalan imho.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 8:35 pm
KaeruJim
Club Captain
Joined: Oct 18 2018 Posts: 4719
I'm hoping Holroyd will do well under Arthur - there is a really good prop in there if we can extract it somehow.
There will be some movement with a couple of players which is out of our hands; Martin might go somewhere else if the offer is good enough and I saw something about O'Connor earlier in the year. Who knows.
I just hope we keep Arthur for at least next season, he just exudes confidence and class to me. That older mentor-type figure is perfect for a young and developing side, I just think he's a great fit for Leeds right now.
I'm much more confident in us identifying and fixing gaps in the squad now we have him and Blease working on it.
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