Wilkin was right in what he said about our pack in general, but referenced the wrong player in Oledzki. He is the only prop I’d keep, and the only one who turned up again today. Lisone is a flat track bully and a penalty machine, and Sangare is a sad indictment on the people making the big decisions at Hedingley. Not only was he a bad signing, but his contract extension is the biggest joke in the club’s history.
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Jon Wilkins was a tough player and a mongrel as a small forward in a big tough man’s world as a player. The statement he gave with honesty is a huge clue to where Wigan and Saints have it right and where we are going wrong at this time. The last time we corrected this was when Doug Laughton came in and got rid of the slow small players and brought in Big faster more aggressive ones. Big Mick is a free hit for all the other forwards in the league he never re acts it’s not in his nature and everyone in the league has no fear of him not to single him out no one else bar Bentley can help him. People who have played at any level very very quickly work out who to mess with and who not
Jack Burton wrote:The basic skills and attitude of this group are lethargic and sloppy, and to me, that's a reflection of the coach. What do they actually work on in training? I don't agree that Blease's job is that enormous. A coach who will up the intensity and tighten up the basics would improve this team greatly in a short period of time.
Totally agree. Wonder if we’re all in agreement on here now Smiths race is run… he’s out of his depth. Terribly disappointing for all and it’s not what we wanted at season start, we were expecting a good competitive season with a top 4 challenge. It’s absolutely shocking. This should have been a game where we came out firing on all cylinders. Fuming. Hull fc are poor
Trebor1 wrote:Totally agree. Wonder if we’re all in agreement on here now Smiths race is run… he’s out of his depth. Terribly disappointing for all and it’s not what we wanted at season start, we were expecting a good competitive season with a top 4 challenge. It’s absolutely shocking. This should have been a game where we came out firing on all cylinders. Fuming. Hull fc are poor
I've come to that conclusion. There are occasions where it just doesn't work out between coach and club and this is one of them. I genuinely wish RS well for the future but in the best interests of all concerned it's time to move on. I'm sure Blease will be having the conversation. I'm equally sure RS knows the score.
Jack Burton wrote:The basic skills and attitude of this group are lethargic and sloppy, and to me, that's a reflection of the coach. What do they actually work on in training? I don't agree that Blease's job is that enormous. A coach who will up the intensity and tighten up the basics would improve this team greatly in a short period of time.
That will be Shaun Wane then? You should have gone for him before Smith. I think he was quite a poular choice on here if i remember rightly. I don't want him to leave Wigan but i would be fascinated to see what he could do at a big club in decline like Leeds or a Hull. His rugby isn't always pretty but he always gets every last drop of effort from his players. He is renowned for utilising the academy and promoting from within too. It's everything clubs like Leeds, Wigan and Saints are built on. You need somebody who gets the culture of being in charge of one of these sides. The imposters of these roles never succeed.
We know this set of players can play a lot better than that. I think they've given up on the coach. Its getting to the point where Smith should walk away, as if the players have lost faith it will just be like this more often than not until he goes, and that looks to be a very unhappy group of players. Its unfortunate with the timing of Rob's passing, but once the players check out the coach is a goner.
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