Simmo71 wrote:Total wake up call this. Our pack is pretty much at full strength and are getting totally dominated. Way off consistently competing against the top 4.
It isn’t all about your pack, a lot of meters and effort comes from your outside backs. We have one of our normal 2,3,4 and 5 playing. Our 2 and 5 normally make quality meters for us if playing. Catalans have a big pack, they have first choice wingers and first choice centres playing.
You look at saints when they don’t have Grace, Makinson, Percival etc then their pack doesn’t look anything like as effective.
Yes we need a better front row, of course we do you can see it even if you don’t watch much RL. However it isn’t just about that.
Lprhino wrote:It isn’t all about your pack, a lot of meters and effort comes from your outside backs. We have one of our normal 2,3,4 and 5 playing. Our 2 and 5 normally make quality meters for us if playing. Catalans have a big pack, they have first choice wingers and first choice centres playing.
You look at saints when they don’t have Grace, Makinson, Percival etc then their pack doesn’t look anything like as effective.
Yes we need a better front row, of course we do you can see it even if you don’t watch much RL. However it isn’t just about that.
It's not, you're right, but I think the big worry is that our main props are actually playing and we're still getting rolled. Where as we know Handley, fusitua and newman are to come in.
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Lprhino wrote:It isn’t all about your pack, a lot of meters and effort comes from your outside backs. We have one of our normal 2,3,4 and 5 playing. Our 2 and 5 normally make quality meters for us if playing. Catalans have a big pack, they have first choice wingers and first choice centres playing.
You look at saints when they don’t have Grace, Makinson, Percival etc then their pack doesn’t look anything like as effective.
Yes we need a better front row, of course we do you can see it even if you don’t watch much RL. However it isn’t just about that.
Yep, great post, Handleys metres made and Fusituas are really missed.
Lprhino wrote:It isn’t all about your pack, a lot of meters and effort comes from your outside backs. We have one of our normal 2,3,4 and 5 playing. Our 2 and 5 normally make quality meters for us if playing. Catalans have a big pack, they have first choice wingers and first choice centres playing.
You look at saints when they don’t have Grace, Makinson, Percival etc then their pack doesn’t look anything like as effective.
Yes we need a better front row, of course we do you can see it even if you don’t watch much RL. However it isn’t just about that.
It isn't all about your pack. But when they are getting completely dominated, it doesn't matter who you have in the halves and three quarters, you will struggle to have field position for them to capitalise.
Seth wrote:It's not, you're right, but I think the big worry is that our main props are actually playing and we're still getting rolled.
Agree, our first choice pack isn’t good enough or big enough. However always going to be difficult when we have limited go forward in our outside backs
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