Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:06 am
Seth
Club Owner
Joined: Mar 16 2004 Posts: 6721 Location: Meltham
RAPIDO wrote:Serious question who in your opinion will be an international first Our best 2nd rower in your opinion McDonnell or Walters? Also if you put McDonnell in front of Martin, who will score more points in his employment than McDonnell ever will I really don't get the hype.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:11 am
Simmo71
First Team Player
Joined: Oct 26 2020 Posts: 1514
Now Walters is at Wigan, I would fully expect Wane to give him an England cap. But they're pretty meaningless these days.
And I don't see how anyone can question Martin and McDonnell being our best second rows last season. And then suggest that someone who came in as prop cover (and admittedly did well) when Tetevano was out, was our best second row. Ridiculous....
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:11 am
cheekydiddles
Player Coach
Joined: Nov 01 2006 Posts: 3253
Burgess to leave Salford….unfortunately for us I cannot see them wanting Olpherts back and so there’s a chance if we haven’t finalised a deal for him, Kershaw May end up at Salford?
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:24 am
leedsbarmyarmy
International Star
Joined: Jul 04 2011 Posts: 826
RAPIDO wrote:Serious question who in your opinion will be an international first Our best 2nd rower in your opinion McDonnell or Walters? Also if you put McDonnell in front of Martin, who will score more points in his employment than McDonnell ever will I really don't get the hype.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:20 pm
LeedsTiger
Club Captain
Joined: May 08 2019 Posts: 400 Location: Arse end of nowhere
RAPIDO wrote:Serious question who in your opinion will be an international first Our best 2nd rower in your opinion McDonnell or Walters? Also if you put McDonnell in front of Martin, who will score more points in his employment than McDonnell ever will I really don't get the hype.
Thankfully someone else pointed out McDonnell is already an international. I said a while back he's of a similar mould to Carl Ablett with his solid defence (all bar a few missed tackles) which is his best asset and i've seen no reason to change that opinion. He can chip in a few tries as he does have attacking ability but i think the lack of a few more last season was down to how he's been asked to play.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 1:26 pm
Once were Loiners
First Team Player
Joined: Dec 15 2021 Posts: 1250
Also doesn't the logic of points making Martin a better player than McDonnell mean he's also vastly superior to Walters as well? I might have to re-rate Ben Walker from god-awful if kicking goals is all that counts.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:08 pm
Frosties.
Moderator
Joined: Oct 27 2006 Posts: 10707
cheekydiddles wrote:Burgess to leave Salford….unfortunately for us I cannot see them wanting Olpherts back and so there’s a chance if we haven’t finalised a deal for him, Kershaw May end up at Salford?
I honestly don’t understand what is going on at Salford.
They are now down to 24 players and with them being under special arrangements with the RFL, it doesn’t seem to be changing.
Post subject: Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour thread V4
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:24 pm
Lprhino
Club Captain
Joined: Sep 12 2018 Posts: 309
Walters is decent, but let’s put it in perspective, he was scratching around trying to get into a pack that was fairly average at the start of the season. He got into the team as a prop, in a team who didn’t make the playoffs.
Walters is 22, will be 23 by the start or next year and has played under 50 games I think. As a comparison KPP is a year younger, has played 20 odd top level games more and is now in the NRL and playing for England.
Wigan see Walters as a potential replacement for KPP, in some ways you can see that. Both big lads, both got some pace, alright hands and like a shot. However, KPP can play centre at a push, his defence is so far above Walters. Walters is used to being the top guy, best player in all academy years, looks like a monster etc. However, when asked to put the hard work in, defend space, move laterally and read the play he has always been found wanting in open age rugby. Maybe Wigan think they can sort the work rate out in their environment. I just don’t see how you fix the lateral movement and defensive issues, I think those are fundamental and linked to his size. There is a plus and a negative to being that size.
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