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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 9:58 pm 
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Loiner at large wrote:Not sure what game the Bentley haters were watching he was leeds top tackler and never hid in terms of taking the ball into contact however hes not big enough and that should not be his job. Sangare is a complete waste of time an 18 stone forward who runs like a Granny! Once again Lisone innocuos against a decent team. Sort out the props and we win that game! Not one forward anywhere near 100m thats all you need to know!
Thought Millar was excellent today!

Miller was very good. I also thought the spine started very well and the 3rd try was brilliantly executed. In a way the problems are so fundamental that they are easy to correct. It's going to need radically better players in the middle of the field to do that.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:39 pm 
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The Bentley issue is summed up by what you just said. He makes zero impact with the ball. Like it or not, that is half the game he's hopeless at. In what world is taking the ball up not part of a second rower's job?? You also fail to mention the mainly brain dead penalties he gives away. Where we are right now he's just as much part of the problem as Sangare and Lisone. The only difference is that he might work in amongst a much better set of big forwards, whereas I don't see Sangare and Lisone ever being part of the solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 6:48 am 
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The top tackler moniker doesn’t really help the argument for me either, not when he’s giving 4 (I think) penalties away. Cam Smith has topped the tackle count for the whole league, but I think you’d be hard pressed to find anyone who’d say he’s played to his best this year.

Agree with the post above, despite all that Bentley could work in a better functioning pack but it’d have to be as an edge back rower for me not an undersized ‘shudder’ middle…

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:54 am 
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Odd flashes of brilliance in the first half gave me me grounds for optimism. That was soon extinguished as we reverted to type and, went back to mid table mediocrity . Some of the penalties we conceded were absolutely unforgivable, thus handing the game to Salford. I think most of us on here agree that Rohan Smith has devastated the club. The rebuild won’t be easy as several clubs will be chasing quality players for next season. Saints and Hull spring to mind. Wigan and Warrington seem more or less complete. Potentially at the end of the season we may not have a coach. Obviously not an ideal situation. I am reasonably happy if the rebuild takes two or three seasons so long as it’s successful.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:33 am 
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There’s no chance of people on here being happy with a three year ‘rebuild’.

Long term projects require patience and s level of understanding that for a few years it won’t be plain sailing.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:38 am 
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it epuldnt be 3 years though
it's already been 6!

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:42 am 
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Almost forgot, the head shot to miller which resulted in a yellow card ,may well have been a red with some referees. Thought the authorities were being strict on head shots.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:47 am 
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Backwoodsman wrote:Almost forgot, the head shot to miller which resulted in a yellow card ,may well have been a red with some referees. Thought the authorities were being strict on head shots.


Ive not watched it back but it was right infront of me, it looked like a direct shoulder to the head to me.

The two ‘knock ons’ were poor decisions aswell, but we made far more poor decisions than the ref!

Miller and Macdonnell were Leeds best, rest were average at best.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
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tad rhino wrote:it epuldnt be 3 years though
it's already been 6!


In reality it hasn’t though because every new coach that comes in will change the set up.

We've had a merry go round of coaches and were paying the price for it.

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 Post subject: Re: Round 20 Salford away 3/8/24
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 8:56 am 
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christopher wrote:In reality it hasn’t though because every new coach that comes in will change the set up.

We've had a merry go round of coaches and were paying the price for it.


In effect we're starting a 3 year rebuild every 12 months.

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