Post subject: Re: RD 14 MW | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 7:33 am
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PrinterThe wrote:Yeah you played a poor Wakefield side on 3 of those occasions. Just pointing out that there's a difference between your form at Jungle and when you are away from it this year, which there clearly is.
We save our best away form for major stadiums like St James Park & Headingley. But not Wembley.
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Post subject: Re: RD 14 MW | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 10:14 am
tvoc
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Away from computers today but IIRC last five meetings - looking at it from a Leeds POV - L,L,L,L,L (unprecedented) with the most recent two losses been by record margins home and away.
The only stat Leeds can take much comfort from is their recent record V Castleford at Neutral venues.
Post subject: Re: RD 14 MW | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:51 am
ls28_rhino
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Dave Craven just tweeted that we've lost Keith Galloway (knee injury from training) and Garbutt (concussion) for the game on Saturday - Kal and Delaney back
Post subject: Re: RD 14 MW | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:21 pm
chapylad
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That puts us short on props for this one. Maybe Ferres can play prop he certainly has the size. Baldwinson, Cuthbertson and Singleton the others. Shame we let Oledezki go to Bradford! Is Zak fit to play on Sunday?
Post subject: Re: RD 14 MW | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:22 pm
Juan Cornetto
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PrinterThe wrote:Yeah Cuthbertson has played in 4 more games than Garbutt and usually plays more minutes so obviously his tackle numbers are higher. Doesn't mean the difference between the as defenders is significant though, just means one has been on the field more. Garbutt has 8 missed tackles in 9 games (less than 1 a game), Cuthbertson 25 in 13 (almost two a game)
With regards to metres made, Cuthbertson may be our biggest metre maker but averages 120m a game compared to Garbutt who is almost at 150m so again difference in time spent on the field. If you've got a prop who can give you 150m in a game then start him for this game where we need to have good field position, not reduce him to impact stints off the bench. Cuthbertson's strength - offloads - we don't need from minute 1 on Sunday, especially if they don't come off and gift Cas good starting field position.
Yes you are quite right about Cuthbertson's playing longer minutes but the tackle count difference is still significant. Garbutt would have to make 50 tackles per game for 4 matches while Cuthbertson is out to even up the score. Most unlikely he could do that.
They both have a different role to play in the side and while not against starting Garbutt it should not be at the expense of Cuthbertson who is the more effective prop overall and so important to our attack which as the best form of defense. Hence I want him on the field for big minutes. However Galloway has the best meters per carry so usually he starts and Garbut comes on for impact which he does very well.
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Post subject: Re: RD 14 MW | Leeds Rhinos v Castleford Tigers
Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:27 pm
ls28_rhino
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chapylad wrote:That puts us short on props for this one. Maybe Ferres can play prop he certainly has the size. Baldwinson, Cuthbertson and Singleton the others. Shame we let Oledezki go to Bradford! Is Zak fit to play on Sunday?
The interviews I've seen said he would be able to play and that it wasn't as bad as first feared... Glad he's not badly injured but shame he can't just sit this one out
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