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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:42 am 
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DHM wrote:There is definitely a link between supermarkets and RL.


Clearly. That's why Morrisons pay £15 an hour to recruit the most talented checkout staff from around the world.






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:44 am 
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BrisbaneRhino wrote:Even if Leeds make a million a year profit (I use that term advisedly as its a slippery sod itself), that means they'd need to save it for years to pay for major redevelopment of the stadium.

An increase in the cap would mean nothing for most SL teams, who are kept alive purely by the largesse of their owners. It would also in large part go straight into the hands of the existing crop of SL players. If the cap is holding everyone back, why hasn't every SL side got a "marquee" player?

TBH the naivety about the cap is incredible. It can't stop teams going bust but its far better protection than none at all. The idea that its some kind of capitalist conspiracy to keep cigar chewing suits in champers is mind-boggling. Most club owners have to support their clubs every year, not the other way round.

And yet here you are describing as preferable a situation where a man whose family wealth is measured in the hundreds of millions pays his employees less so that he can add improvements worth tens of millions to his asset worth tens of millions with no investment from himself.






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:47 am 
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Andy Gilder wrote:Clearly. That's why Morrisons pay £15 an hour to recruit the most talented checkout staff from around the world.

Morrisons ceo (not owner) was paid 2.6m in bonuses last year.






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:14 am 
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Andy Gilder wrote:Gareth Widdop left due to the salary cap?

Now you're just embarrassing yourself chief.

That's not what I said chief. Leeds failed in their attempt to sign Widdop

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Andy Gilder wrote:Gareth Widdop left due to the salary cap?

Now you're just embarrassing yourself chief.

That's not what I said chief. Leeds failed in their attempt to sign Widdop

http://m.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league ... miwge.html

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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:16 am 
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SmokeyTA wrote:And yet here you are describing as preferable a situation where a man whose family wealth is measured in the hundreds of millions pays his employees less so that he can add improvements worth tens of millions to his asset worth tens of millions with no investment from himself.

I was expecting the new players union (league13) to challenge this, as has happened in the NRL, but the players union seemed to fold before doing anything.

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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:21 am 
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DHM wrote:There is definitely a link between supermarkets and RL.


Same customers :D

You are suggesting out in the real world the same rules apply about market forces and the value of individuals - I am not convinced that is the case where payments to players are restricted by an upper limit of combined salaries. Out in your real commercial world give me an example of where the conditions experienced by RL players is replicated?

What is the incentive for an upward change - if all the clubs are in the same position, the competitive advantage would be in removing the cap altogether?

I am amazed GH hasn't managed to convince the other CEO's to bring the cap down - I genuinely believe that is what he wants, he certainly wanted it a few years ago.

If the salaries of the senior managers were also included in the cap I guarantee the cap would not have remained at the same level for 10+ years






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
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Andy Gilder wrote:Clearly. That's why Morrisons pay £15 an hour to recruit the most talented checkout staff from around the world.


Morrisons are allowed to pay whatever they deem appropriate - they are not constricted by an over all cap on salaries so if they want to pay the CEO £4m a year no other member of staff's wages have to be compromised to allow that to happen. Of course you were being facetious for the sake of it. If Leeds wanted to sign Jonathan Thurston then a serious re-jigging of the squad would be required to financially accomodate him






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

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Sal Paradise wrote:Same customers :D



Nearly there.






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 Post subject: Re: Salary Cap
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DHM wrote:Nearly there.


What you are still thinking?






Your job is to say to yourself on a job interview does the hiring manager likes me or not. If you aren't a particular manager's cup of tea, you haven't failed -- you've dodged a bullet.

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Sal Paradise wrote:What you are still thinking?


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