I know Hetherington's tool of last resort is the open letter but when did fans start clamouring for it, demanding they get an apology? It's just weird.

Very weird! Like crying babies, they need to get a grip!

Plus he’s done that many of them now they’re rendered meaningless and do nothing, it’s like an annual thing now.

You’re going to do a root and branch review are you? Sure you are, and we’ll still be sheeite next season.

[quote="FlexWheeler"]Plus he’s done that many of them now they’re rendered meaningless and do nothing, it’s like an annual thing now.

You’re going to do a root and branch review are you? Sure you are, and we’ll still be sheeite next season.[/quote]

On this I do agree. There is nothing to be gained. We know how we feel as fans. They know how we feel. No doubt they're feeling the same.

Jeez we are scraping the barrel with the suggestion of John Kear.
We could also ask Brian Noble to come in as DoR.
I don`t think there`s a coach in the UK that I would like unless we get Rowley.
So that brings us to the NRL and again I stick by my Ryan Carr/Lee Briers suggestions.
Didn`t Smith coach a second string team to win the GF whilst he was in Australia?
For me I really do think we have players leaving who do not want to play for us this season and it`s causing disharmony in the changing rooms and on the pitch.
If that's the case said players should be dropped and the reserves given a shout.

Chappy you really are naive aren't you. You seem to dismiss the Kear rumour without a second thought and then bring Carr and Briers into conversation. Get a grip man and step into the real world, both are currently in respective roles within the NRL. They're not walking away for us, it's exactly why we were forced to look in the second grade for Smith, which leads me to ask again.

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY ONCE GREAT CLUB???

Not sure it`s naivety Brad.
Carr and Briers and Rowley are the ones I would "like" as coach
and would have wanted Carr before he went back to Oz.
Briers is one for the future who did well during his time in the UK admittedly as an assistant.
Big risk I know.
The thought of Kear coming to the Club fills me with horror.
He is too far removed from the modern game and whilst he had some motivational skills his understanding on how the game is played now is limited evidenced by his comments on tv along with the likes of Jonathon Davies.
Our once great club has been sadly mis managed for a number of years starting from the top when GH thought it was better to bring in cheap coaching options.

Who was the last very good coach GH brought in for the 1st Team? I ask as I think very good is the minimum standard we should be looking for.

Who was the last game breaking talent GH signed for the 1st Team? I ask as we seem desperately short of them.

Last night I was thinking, I know it hurt, about which players or coaches we have brought in since the 2017 GF that have actually been a roaring success. I couldn't make a case for any of them to be signed really, including the Leeds version of Konrad Hurrell who whilst entertaining was nothing like the St Helens version and wasn't really what we needed.

GH has gone so far off the boil from a playing and coaching side, he's barely even tepid.

The Leeds version of KH is almost exactly the same as the Saints version (he actually looks bigger now), just better players around him.

The Leeds version of KH is almost exactly the same as the Saints version (he actually looks bigger now), just better players around him.