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Assuming we don’t get any bans (I know, bear with me…) then who drops out for Newman? My money would be on Tindall, who I think had a decent game but is clearly the least experienced and would be most targeted of the backs. Hardaker would go to the Wing.
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batleyrhino wrote:Assuming we don’t get any bans (I know, bear with me…) then who drops out for Newman? My money would be on Tindall, who I think had a decent game but is clearly the least experienced and would be most targeted of the backs. Hardaker would go to the Wing.
I think so. Or Sutcliffe to second row with Martin, Gannon and possibly Bentley missing.
batleyrhino wrote:Assuming we don’t get any bans (I know, bear with me…) then who drops out for Newman? My money would be on Tindall, who I think had a decent game but is clearly the least experienced and would be most targeted of the backs. Hardaker would go to the Wing.
Also what if fusitua plays. Then you might go 1. Myler 2. Fusitua 3. Newman 4. Sutcliffe 5. Hardaker 6. Austin 7. Sezer
Maybe briscoe gets a bench spot as potential for Newman and fusitua to break down again
Post subject: Re: GF E | Wigan Warriors / St Helens (A)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:18 am
Hopie
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tad rhino wrote:should saints drop their standards or should the rest raise theres?
Saints have dropped standards, Leeds have dropped further
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Post subject: Re: GF E | Wigan Warriors / St Helens (A)
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:52 am
FlexWheeler
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ArthurClues wrote:Agree. Not sure the about the point on outcomes either. Salford reached the GF in 2019, the challenge Cup in 2020 and are 80 mins from reaching the big dance again. Teams like Cas, Hudds and Catalans have also reached showpiece occasions over the last couple of seasons. We currently have a great Saints side who have clearly been the best team over the last few years, but that won't last forever. Quality wise I reckon most Leeds fans would say the gamed peaked between 2004 and 2015 - funny that! Get rid of the current overzealous officiating and I would say the game is still a great product. Crowd figures are pretty flat but they aren't dropping off a cliff, and a successful Leeds side (and now there is real hope) would soon boost averages across the game. I do wonder if a lot of Leeds fans who have seemingly given up hope on the game were hopelessly spoiled by the greatest unbroken spell of success in the clubs history and just can't cope that we aren't top dogs anymore. But you never know, things can and do change.
That's my point on outcomes, born out over 15 years.
You say this as if it's a new and terrible thing. It's neither. Before the Super League area, in the old first past the post years, Wigan won seven times in a row, with the rest not really playing the same sport. If you throw first past the post into your analysis you'd also have to factor in Wire ( a couple of times) Hudds, Cas and Catalans, so the evidence points to the competition being harder fought now than it was then.
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