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Lord_Percy wrote:Saw a clip of the incident on SSN last night, which they said was previously un-released footage. It showed the player in question down on his haunches in backplay, with no other player in sight. He then reaches into his sock, puts his hand up to his face and suddenly there's blood coming out!

Puts a totally different slant on it in my opinion - deliberate, pre-meditated cheating by both the player and the club. I think he can consider himself fortunate to have had his ban reduced.

I agree, i thought he was in a difficult situation before seeing that footage and i think his ban should match the one richards received.

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It does demonstrate how little physical contact the average Union winger endures in 75 minutes, that he can keep a blood capsule down his sock without it bursting. :wink:






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This four month ban for the cheating player, how many games will he miss?

Television pictures appeared to show Williams winking at the bench as he went off.

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tvoc wrote:This four month ban for the cheating player, how many games will he miss?


Depends, is it effective from the date of the offence, the date the initial ban was imposed or the date his appeal was heard?

If it's the middle one (which I imagine it would be) then he'll be out til around mid-November and the season starts next weekend doesn't it?

Still, it's done a good job of taking all the media attention away from all those coked-up Bath players and the recreational drug problem in the sport.






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Andy Gilder wrote:Depends, is it effective from the date of the offence, the date the initial ban was imposed or the date his appeal was heard?

If it's the middle one (which I imagine it would be) then he'll be out til around mid-November and the season starts next weekend doesn't it?

Still, it's done a good job of taking all the media attention away from all those coked-up Bath players and the recreational drug problem in the sport.


I'm sure I heard November mentioned in one of the reports, so I think you're right.

You're right in saying it deflects attention from the 5 players who were at Bath last season currently suspended due to drug testing violations.






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Andy Gilder wrote:It does demonstrate how little physical contact the average Union winger endures in 75 minutes, that he can keep a blood capsule down his sock without it bursting. :wink:


It's not the strangest thing I've seen on a rugby pitch that didn't burst. One guy in a vets team we once played had a colostomy bag. Nobody on our team knew until after the game. If they had told us before kick off the guy would have set an all time try scoring record as nobody would have laid a finger on him.






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tad rhino wrote:i thought that too.they had a massive number of blood bins that night.
i read an ex players book once where he admitted the physio nicked them with a razor but i can't remember who the hell it was!!!!!



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thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ta mate, couldn't remember and it was bugging me

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Lord_Percy wrote:Saw a clip of the incident on SSN last night, which they said was previously un-released footage. It showed the player in question down on his haunches in backplay, with no other player in sight. He then reaches into his sock, puts his hand up to his face and suddenly there's blood coming out!

Puts a totally different slant on it in my opinion - deliberate, pre-meditated cheating by both the player and the club. I think he can consider himself fortunate to have had his ban reduced.


I disagree, we have no idea what duress Williams was put under by Richards to carry his plan out. If Williams had said no he could have easily been sidelined by Richards and effectivley taken out of the game for many months.






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