It aint happening no matter how much people moan.

But Wigan ate just a far better side. If youve got a game plan you need the personnel to carry it out.

I expected a real focus on limiting yardage errors and penalties and fronting up to restrict their yardage on kick returns, that's what's disappointed me.

I’m not sure the O’Connor at hooker experiment is working: he has the workrate and good skill but just not enough accuracy from the PTB and takes wrong options too many times.

He’s probably just neither one thing nor another: too small for back row and not skilful enough for 9 or halves, at this level.

Problems at 9 bc we also have Johnson we need to make a decision on over the next year.

Agree with this. Errors and penalties have killed us. Individually we’d get away with Jack, Gannon or Martin in the halves or Hooley at fullback, but all together is a big ask.

We start nearly every set near our 10 metre line while the opposition start there's near halfway. It's been a feature all season.

Its getting more obvious every week that Smith is out of his depth but agree that we are stuck with him and his alledged coaching team

We cannot apply and maintain pressure because we lack the discipline and skill.

The score will blow out in this heat, not because of our structure but for how much time we spend in our own half on the back of our errors.

That about sums it up.