At 22 and just converting to the front row he's shown good promise and too early to say he's not that good. He's a frame to grow into and as mentioned walmsley wasn't the finished article at 22. If he went to St's I wouldn't picture him being anything but a success

He’s not that good to get into a bidding war is what I mean.

I want him to stay

Agreed Seth. I just think it’s got to work both ways. The lad has to be willing to show some patience, it’s not like he’s not played any first team at all under smith. He was trusted enough for the grand final last year and if we’re honest is one injury or suspension away from a run in the first team.

Yeah think that’s it. Think hex wants to move, so probably not a lot we can do, as not worth a massive pay rise at this stage either…..

I'd be concerned about why he wants to leave given the opportunity he's had already, his age and Smith moved him to the front row

These young players are a challenge their development is seldom linear - as the club has seen with Cameron Smith. You would hope the club has sufficient internal knowledge to spot the talent - not many youngsters left Leeds and have a better career away. However looking the likes of Hall and Dupree maybe this is changing?

Yeah I don't think we can really claim that anymore. Mcshanes turned out well too.

Probably got the ‘show me the money’ agent in his ear…..

We’ve benefited this year with Macdonnell when another big club with good youth set up simply can’t keep them all (as have warrington with Nicholson)

That is a fair point - If you look at the Wigan pack there are lot of home grown players especially in the 14-20 numbers