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| Club's laid its cards on the table - do it our way or you're out.
I wouldn't rule out Walker staying.
p.s. you heard it here first
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| I've not read the pages yet! But Fu*k him. Should not be allowed to wear the shirt.
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| Methinks there is much "smoke & mirrors" about this than the media-friendly announcements from both sides.
Walker (& his family/advisors/agent) will know that he will not find ANY SL club that will guarantee to play him in a certain position no matter what (especially not at 17 y.o.).
I think it more likely that there has been a breakdown in trust/communication or some fallout between Hetherington/McDermott & agent/player.
Let's just see if Walker gets a SL contract elsewhere which GUARANTEES him a dedicated position (this was the stumbling block stated by both sides).
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| Leeds are right to stick to their guns. What did Walker expect to happen, Leeds tell Golding he's been transfer listed and have a 17 year old as the only specialist full back. I wouldn't rule him out staying completely, this could be a sly move by GH to put pressure on Walker signing a new deal, but him staying is very unlikely.
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| I agree. I think both sides have been foolish. had leeds made a decent offer I'm sure he would have signed.
but he's been very naive with regards to his agent. he's a massive talent. I hope he stays and I wouldn't rule it out
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| Wait until the Leeds fans Boo the $hit out of him and call him all the names under the sun. He will go home and cry his eyes out. He is a bloody child (some of us should remember that). He has been let down by Show Me The Money big time).
GH knows exactly what he is doing. The kid is gonna be a Leeds hate figure for his entire career if he's any good.
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| I can understand the anger and disappointment from the Leeds fans but i think some of you are being rather unfair on him. He is being labelled as immature etc but i think he has shown maturity and wants the best for his own career. If he wants to be a full back but Brian McD has said 'no i want you to play at 6' i am not surprised he doesn't like it. The decision might come back and bite him but it might not. If the lad wants to be a professional rugby league player as a full back who are anybody to tell him other wise. It's like putting a goalkeeper up front as a striker. The lad has trained all his life to be a full back and if thats what he wants to do then i think he should be allowed to follow his dream. All speculation of course but the Leeds board have spat their dummy out here and hung him out to dry. It's a bit petulant to be honest. He isn't even old enough to vote yet and is being bullied by multi millionaire businessmen through the internet. Let the lad follow his dream, good on him for being headstrong enough not to be bullied.
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| Good luck to him wherever he lays his hat. If he's not willing to fight for his favoured position now, what's he going to be like in the future? Can't have it handed on a plate in professional sport.
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| Quote ="tad rhino" I think both sides have been foolish. had leeds made a decent offer I'm sure he would have signed'"
What kind of offer did you have in mind , a guaranteed starting spot at full - back ?
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| I think Leeds have attempted to portray Walker badly. I'm sure he did not demand the full back spot: rather asked what his chances are given Golding has recently signed a long term contract. I get the impression this isn't the end of it and the article was released to out pressure on Walker, however, if he reads these forums he will probably be more likely to move on given the abuse he has received. I'm sure there is blame on both his agent and Leeds. Lets see how it pans out but I feel this might not be the end of it.
To give Golding a long term contract when unproven seems very daft now though and appears to have contributed to us losing a potential future star.
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| Quote ="Leeds Thirteen"What kind of offer did you have in mind , a guaranteed starting spot at full - back ?'"
of course not that's bloody stupid.
if the money hasn't been so derisiry I'm sure he would have signed. leeds have more than doubled that original offer.
however the biggest culprit is his agent. jacks a kid. he's 17. his parents aren't around to help him.
for me he's being led by his agent
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| Some not very complimentary comments from certain players on social media, who seem to think JW has been 'thrown under the bus' and 'hung out to dry' by Leeds
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| like who? I don't do social media
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| Do you think Goldings contract has a stipulation that he will be at fullback, if fit for the duration? Show some backbone and fight for your position......that's what "teams" are all about. The club may see Golding as a good player, who has a future in one of several positions.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"like who? I don't do social media'"
Sam Hallas (recently released by Leeds )
Scott Moore
Zak Hardaker - tho more in support of Walker than anything else
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| I hope that Jack stays as he is a fantastic prospect and he could be a future super star,but ATM he is a 17 year old kid that is only starting his career
Maybe he should remember how Brooke Broughton,Micky Learmonth and Morgan Smith's careers have panned out since leaving on big money contracts and probably on false promises too from that particular club who have a record of being vultures circling junior talent at other clubs and offering silly money in the hope that they get a super star down the line
If he goes the MEH and good luck to the kid as IMO we've plenty more talented kids coming through the academy who would love to wear the shirt that their childhood heroes wore with distinction despite starting at the back of the pecking order
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| Ironic that the the ultimate club professional, Mr Burrow, who was asked to play where and when he didnt like or agree with, did so to the teams advantage, has announced his retirement.
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| It seems likely all they've done is shown him just how wrong he is to believe the club would back down to his demands if he stuck to them. Which I assume is what his agent's been telling him. Well they haven't.
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| I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?
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| Quote ="Cherry_Warrior"I can understand the anger and disappointment from the Leeds fans but i think some of you are being rather unfair on him. He is being labelled as immature etc but i think he has shown maturity and wants the best for his own career. If he wants to be a full back but Brian McD has said 'no i want you to play at 6' i am not surprised he doesn't like it. The decision might come back and bite him but it might not. If the lad wants to be a professional rugby league player as a full back who are anybody to tell him other wise. It's like putting a goalkeeper up front as a striker. The lad has trained all his life to be a full back and if thats what he wants to do then i think he should be allowed to follow his dream. All speculation of course but the Leeds board have spat their dummy out here and hung him out to dry. It's a bit petulant to be honest. He isn't even old enough to vote yet and is being bullied by multi millionaire businessmen through the internet. Let the lad follow his dream, good on him for being headstrong enough not to be bullied.'"
Cherry, you make some fair points, but I doubt he is being bullied. His statement seems to reflect some maturity to me and he certainly appears to know his own mind. But he can not seriously have expected to dictate to any club what position he would play. So for mine this is either naivety, or a ploy to bring negotiations to an end. I'll be sorry to see him leave if that's the way it goes, but I'd ask you this question. If he was a Wigan youngster, what would position would you want your club to adopt if faced with his negotiating position?
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| Quote ="FGB"Some not very complimentary comments from certain players on social media, who seem to think JW has been 'thrown under the bus' and 'hung out to dry' by Leeds'"
It does seem an unusual way for our club to have handled it. GH normally likes to keep things in house.
He must have [ireally[/i cheesed them off.
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| Quote ="FGB"Sam Hallas (recently released by Leeds
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Hallas feeling bitter
Moore total grub
Hardaker thick
shouldn't worry what they think
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?'"
GH is doing his job, if walker left with no explanation there would be plenty on here who would blame him and the club for not paying enough.
Is it correct that he is off contract at the end of the year? If so then I dont see this as considering his options and more him saying he wants to leave.
To demand what position you will play is ridiculous, especially given the majority of players in SL and NRL play a different position than they did at 17, if GH accepted these terms he would be totally undermining the coaching staff.
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| The only loser here is Leeds Rhinos. To allow your best talent to leave is mind blowingly bonkers.
No serious employer ever loses an really talented employee - to allow them to leave to a competitor is very poor business.
If the offer is what I have been told - I have no idea if it correct - was true then its an insult. Especially when you have already set a precident with offer made to Cameron Smith. Walker is on a different planet to Smith.
I appreciate the club want to dictate to these what they must do - but if that is your attitude don't cry foul if a young kid calls your bluff.
This whole episode shows how far backwards the club has gone and why allowing the culture McDermott wants the club to adopt will end in tears. Bullying is a terrible human emotion - shame the club and supporters value this so highly
Sinfield left has nothing to do with the club, Peacock left has nothing to do with the club, McGuire is leaving to have nothing to do with the club. How can that be a positive?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I am shocked, yet somehow not surprised at how gullible and somewhat simple Leeds fans do get. Have an opinion by all means on a player, but what there is no doubt on here is how a thoroughly unprofessional club we have become. To put out an announcement public that boils down to nothing more than bullying a player for having the cheek to consider his options. Never thought we would stoop that low as a club. Seriously was there any need at all for the club to announce anything?'"
You're so hypocritical it's laughable.
You complain about the club making this public, mate nobody has done more for the last few months than you to leak the exact details of the meetings between the club and player on here to the point that people already knew the stuff that was mentioned today.
And the lad has had plenty of time now seriously to consider his options. Like they said the club has to move forward and they need to put a line under this and move on and aren't people on here always saying the club should be open and tell them what's going on?
Aren't the club allowed to put their side of the story across or do they just have to let internet posters throw them under the bus with stories and rumours that slag them off?
If Warrington weren't in the middle 8'd would he still be considering his options.
No one player is bigger than the club.
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