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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:15 pm 
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chapylad wrote:Agree.
Was Jon Wells Director of Rugby at Cas before stepping down to take up his role with Sky?
Or did the two roles overlap at any time?


From memory, yes





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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:18 pm 
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chapylad wrote:Agree.
Was Jon Wells Director of Rugby at Cas before stepping down to take up his role with Sky?
Or did the two roles overlap at any time?


Not at all sure on that one. If it did overlap it can't have been by much. Perhaps the conversation was indeed had. Regardless, though, it's not appropriate imo.
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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 8:44 pm 
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He was already on sky when he got the Cas job. His bias went through the roof when he was doing both.





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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:07 pm 
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KaeruJim wrote:RS has a big challenge for next week.

Do we rein it right in and try to avoid another beating? Or do we play at them and take some risks?

Just not sure we have the squad or confidence for plan B. We will see.

What are WE reining in exactly?
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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:15 pm 
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chapylad wrote:I said a few months ago he has 10 games to turn it round next season.
If he doesn`t who do we bring in and do we have to wait another 2 seasons to get that persons squad together?
His get out of jail at the moment is the number of players who have left the club and the number of injuries we have.
The downside to his tenure is the players he`s brought in are championship standard with the exception of Lisone who might be good with a couple of decent blockbusting props by his side and McDonnell who I have as player of the season.
And there appears to be no structure and no desire to play for the coach.
And can Hetherington ask JJB to decide if he wants to be a pundit on Sky or a Director at Leeds?
Personally I wouldn`t have him doing either.

To be fair Lisone and McDonnell were good finds given the limited resources he had. MacDonald was good too before the weird. Who else? Roberts is young and has been okay as back up in patches. Olpherts I am probably the harshest critic of anyone on here. Hooley has also been okay at FB other than debut. Point is a) not all RS players are terrible and b) he has very little cap to play with.

When he has got cap I will be less understanding for the side’s performances myself.
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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:28 pm 
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KaeruJim wrote:To be fair Lisone and McDonnell were good finds given the limited resources he had. MacDonald was good too before the weird. Who else? Roberts is young and has been okay as back up in patches. Olpherts I am probably the harshest critic of anyone on here. Hooley has also been okay at FB other than debut. Point is a) not all RS players are terrible and b) he has very little cap to play with.

When he has got cap I will be less understanding for the side’s performances myself.


Sorry Jim, but this is nonsense.
We can't keep making the excuse that these are not his players.
Why should a quality coach not be able to come in and take over a team (that he has not assembled) and 'coach' them to perform???
It's basic coaching ability.
We can't just keep waiting until every single player in the squad has been signed by Smith, to judge his coaching ability.
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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:14 am 
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The performance of a side is a function of players and the coaching - both. That’s not nonsense.

I understand that many of you just don’t like RS and the knives are out. My point is that the squad just isn’t good enough still and especially with half the team missing, literally.

I don’t know whether RS is the man to helm up glory days again but neither does anyone else on here without better evidence than we’ve been given this season. The only caveat to this is if he has lost the dressing room and the players aren’t wanting to listen and work under him - which again I doubt anyone on here really knows.
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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:37 am 
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As an outside observer it appears that things have got much worse this season. Surely you'd expect a gradual improvement over time and not the opposite? Even allowing for a few injuries and departures you shouldn't be conceding 50+ per week.





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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:58 am 
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thing is all season people have made excuses for smiths ineptitude. they still are.
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 Post subject: Re: RD 26 | Catalans Dragons (A)
PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:17 am 
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Look we’ve had serious disruption.
1) Leeming fallout. Was closest thing we had to a Captain. Not replaced.
2) pack leader Tet lost in bad circumstances.
3) best two young players in Gannon and Newman hardly played
4) only creative spark in Austin gone. Other Senior half given up, and only cover injured.
Not even mention Nene as not relevant to season.
Obvious outcome given the above….
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