Joined: Aug 02 2002 Posts: 7285 Location: Wakefield but near to Leeds!
I personally wouldn`t want Danny McGuire yet another old boy coming back. And he appears to have fallen out with Head coaches before. He didn`t last long at HKR for instance. Richard Marshall (again) but doubt he leaves Wire. If we have to look at ex players Danny Ward or even Ryan Hall if he`s interested.
Just no former players full stop unless they have a track record somewhere else first. What evidence is there that McGuire would be a good assistant and potential future coach? He got kicked out at KR who have only got better since he left. Is he having an impact at Cas? Maybe, but again, what evidence is there that he's driving improvement there?
Danny Ward has actually done some first team coaching and didn't seem to do too bad a job with the Broncos for a while. But what has he done in the last few years? Ryan Hall has zero experience as far as I'm aware.
Knowing what went on during the Golden Generation is fast becoming as relevant as having played with Eric Harris. If anything its looking more of a negative than a positive to me. Our coaches during the Golden Generation were from outside the club, with Brian McDermott only having a short spell as assistant before taking over, but coached London before returning to coach at Leeds. Tony Smith and Bluey had zero links to the club.
Its not the be all and end all, but I hope - and seriously doubt - Blease or Arthur would care very much where someone played or coached before bringing them in. What matters is how they have performed.
Joined: Nov 19 2002 Posts: 13619 Location: West Yorkshire
Once were Loiners wrote: Danny Ward has actually done some first team coaching and didn't seem to do too bad a job with the Broncos for a while. But what has he done in the last few years?. .
Has anyone got the inside track on why Danny Mags left HKR? It was very odd timing in the middle of the play-offs wasn't it?
I think there's space to be objective about former players. Just look at what Lee Briers has done as an assistant when given the opportunity at big clubs. Danny doesn't quite have that calibre yet, but could he reach those heights working under the right mentor?
Joined: Feb 26 2002 Posts: 9574 Location: anywhere, literally...
If we want to build another golden generation we have to cut the ties to the last one. Any future golden generation needs the freedom to have its own identity, not to be moulded in the shape of the last one as the game has changed.
It’s great that we have all these wonderful former players, but that’s what they are unless they have developed into fine coaches or administrators elsewhere. Nostalgia can be fantastic fun, but let’s recognise it for what it is.
It's not how much talent you've got, it's what you do with it that counts.
Joined: Nov 19 2002 Posts: 13619 Location: West Yorkshire
batleyrhino wrote:If we want to build another golden generation we have to cut the ties to the last one. Any future golden generation needs the freedom to have its own identity, not to be moulded in the shape of the last one as the game has changed.
It’s great that we have all these wonderful former players, but that’s what they are unless they have developed into fine coaches or administrators elsewhere. Nostalgia can be fantastic fun, but let’s recognise it for what it is.
We need the best person/people for the jobs, if that’s an ex ‘golden generation ’ player then so be it. I wouldn’t be ruling people out just because of their past playing career.
Once were Loiners wrote:Just no former players full stop unless they have a track record somewhere else first. What evidence is there that McGuire would be a good assistant and potential future coach? He got kicked out at KR who have only got better since he left. Is he having an impact at Cas? Maybe, but again, what evidence is there that he's driving improvement there?
Yeah I cant understand why people are desperate for McGuire back, especially those that moan that we give too many jobs to the old boys, hes not proven anything so far, he may do in the future.
We need an assistant that Arthur could mould into a future replacement, preferably with previous head coach experience.
If Brad Arthur signs on for 2 years the only person who's opinion matters on the assistant coaches is his! What they have done previously is irrelevant.
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