FORUMS FORUMS




  

Home Leeds Rhinos McDermott: utterly clueless



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:11 pm 
International Star
New Signing
User avatar

Joined: Oct 29 2011
Posts: 55
Location: Wherever Percy Pigs are to be found
nantwichexile wrote:Why are some people - like you - averse to criticising those that make mistakes? Bad mistakes.

Yes Leeds have won GF's the last as recently as 2012, but that is still now history. With a better coach Leeds might have also been successful in 2013 ..we will never know of course.

How long are we meant to stay grateful for past glories at the expense of success today? How long should the club remain loyal to those who have provided that success but are are getting less and less effective in critical positions? If the coach is not responsible for the lack of ideas in the last 20 or 40 , despite a glut of possession, then he IS responsible for the selections for following games. Do you think he will drop those that are responsible? No chance...unless it is an easy target of those he considers fringe players. McGuire in particular is done for. Sutcliffe or Moon should be at SO with Burrow rewarded with the SH position. He remains our biggest threat but is better at jumping in at dummy half on an irregular basis. As the main dummy half he is too predictable. Scoot or bad pass or wrong decision. Better when he jumps in there when not expected. Sinfield to LF ...or another option at hooker

Selecting players to sit on the bench for the whole match is just plain stupid. As I have said before the club would be better raffling the 4th spot on the bench for an eager supporter willing to pay a substantial amount to enter the draw.

McDermott has his strengths as a motivator perhaps, but as a tactician he is hopeless. Leeds are simply not playing to their strengths with the present personnel in command.

Rule Brittania. Always have done always will do :D

We have lost ONE game this year. ONE. If you think that is enough to sack a manager, then fine. But if that is the case, then we'll have at least 5 new managers every year, it's that simple. "Ooo, our manager made some incorrect decisions before a game we should have won. I know he's been very successful in his time here, but love that, he can mickey right off!"






Ryan Bailey is so hard he walked into Tesco, asked for a bag of Percy Pigs and got them.

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:18 pm 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Aug 06 2008
Posts: 5526
fredster23199 wrote:We have lost ONE game this year. ONE. If you think that is enough to sack a manager, then fine. But if that is the case, then we'll have at least 5 new managers every year, it's that simple. "Ooo, our manager made some incorrect decisions before a game we should have won. I know he's been very successful in his time here, but love that, he can mickey right off!"


Where have I said he should be sacked?

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:36 pm 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Mar 28 2008
Posts: 7376
Location: Leeds
JerryChicken wrote:LOL

Does anyone just go to enjoy the games anymore ?

Agreed I'm sat over here with envy at missing these poor displays






Soon we will be dancing the Fandango




FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
JAMIE PEACOCK

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:13 pm 
Player Coach
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Oct 17 2007
Posts: 570
lionarmour87 wrote:Agreed I'm sat over here with envy at missing these poor displays


Due to the fact that you have all this spare time on your hands then maybe you could spend a bit more time reading the posts before you reply?






Beware of the "Squirrel Grip"!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:51 pm 
Player Coach
International Star

Joined: Mar 28 2008
Posts: 7376
Location: Leeds
I Grope Balls wrote:Due to the fact that you have all this spare time on your hands then maybe you could spend a bit more time reading the posts before you reply?

There you go again I didn't state I had lots of time on my hands,I said I am envious of my fellow loiners being able to see all the games.The fact that you have not been on here very often and soon you will depart and you also
Reffered to fans of the highest average crowd as whinos and added a silly laughing face suggests you are trolling






Soon we will be dancing the Fandango




FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
JAMIE PEACOCK

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:04 pm 
Player Coach
Fringe Player
User avatar

Joined: Oct 17 2007
Posts: 570
:?
lionarmour87 wrote:There you go again I didn't state I had lots of time on my hands,I said I am envious of my fellow loiners being able to see all the games.The fact that you have not been on here very often and soon you will depart and you also
Reffered to fans of the highest average crowd as whinos and added a silly laughing face suggests you are trolling


You have a very strange perception of things?






Beware of the "Squirrel Grip"!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:31 pm 
International Chairman
International Chairman
User avatar

Joined: Feb 18 2002
Posts: 32302
Location: Swimming against a tide of fekkwittedry
I'm no McDermott fan but leaving aside his selection of Ward at centre and unused sub (again) I thought his tactics were spot on. We worked the ruck over, dominated territoriality and won the forward battle by some distance (as we should have with the players missing).

McDermott was let down by his two very experienced halves who failed to take advantage of this and did not feed the outside backs that should have reaped rewards on the back of that display.

Where I would criticise, or perhaps question, is with the halves playing as they were why not bring BJB off the bench at full back and put Hardaker at 6 for a spell.






Quote:Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.


Kevin Sinfield

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:34 pm 
International Star
Club Captain

Joined: Mar 18 2013
Posts: 4239
If leeds had won that game last night, people would still be questioning some of mcdermott's decisions.

So all this ''but leeds have lost ONE GAME'' is neither here nor there.

Not using a sub, and using other subs for very short periods means someone else is picking up the workload, and the cumulative effect of that across a season is they wind up flogged when the trophies are handed out.

This is the point. People aren't specifically judging mcdermott so much on results, not at this stage of the season, but on his managment of the squad and the way they are used.

Leeds have some ageing players in important positions. It needs to be managed if they want to be in position to compete in major finals at the end of the season.

So can people STFU going on about how many leeds have lost this season and what trophies they won 2 years ago?

Those are not the issues.






实事求是!

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:00 pm 
Player Coach
Player Coach

Joined: Sep 12 2010
Posts: 11412
Location: Behind the picket fence on the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas.
FlexWheeler wrote:If leeds had won that game last night, people would still be questioning some of mcdermott's decisions.

So all this ''but leeds have lost ONE GAME'' is neither here nor there.

Not using a sub, and using other subs for very short periods means someone else is picking up the workload, and the cumulative effect of that across a season is they wind up flogged when the trophies are handed out.

This is the point. People aren't specifically judging mcdermott so much on results, not at this stage of the season, but on his managment of the squad and the way they are used.

Leeds have some ageing players in important positions. It needs to be managed if they want to be in position to compete in major finals at the end of the season.

So can people STFU going on about how many leeds have lost this season and what trophies they won 2 years ago?

Those are not the issues.


The last point kinda is an issue when people say "we won't be able to win come season end because the players will be too knackered", were his selections so much different back then?

Why won't Saints best player Roby be as knackered as anyone else come September/October....he's done more than 120 tackles more than the next Saints player already this year as well as being their leading metre maker and taken over nearly 60 more carries than their next player.






"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."

23/08/2014

Top
   
 
 Post subject: Re: McDermott: utterly clueless
PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:41 pm 
Player Coach
Club Captain

Joined: Jun 20 2008
Posts: 3813
ThePrinter wrote:The last point kinda is an issue when people say "we won't be able to win come season end because the players will be too knackered", were his selections so much different back then?

Why won't Saints best player Roby be as knackered as anyone else come September/October....he's done more than 120 tackles more than the next Saints player already this year as well as being their leading metre maker and taken over nearly 60 more carries than their next player.


Well, he might well be knackered by the end of the season. It's happened before. What have Saints won since Cunningham retired and Roby became a 50-tackle, 80-minute player?

Top
   
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4  Next





It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:24 pm


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ArthurClues, christopher, Jack Burton, Trebor1 and 150 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron

It is currently Tue Feb 18, 2025 2:24 pm
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
38m
Todays match v Giants
Alffi_7
110
47m
Pele
Highlander
6
55m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Ellam
5056
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Dave K.
357
Recent
Barrow at home
Miserybusine
37
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
3101
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
Recent
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
193
Recent
Sheffield away
Greg Florimo
30
Recent
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
Recent
Vegas - A travelling supporters guide
bonnie
10
Recent
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
tigertot
5
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41758
Recent
Film game
BOSS HOG
7878
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
3s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Ellam
5056
4s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
3101
6s
TV Games - Not Hull
paperboy
3297
8s
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
rugbyleague8
234
9s
Leigh h
Phuzzy
101
10s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65135
12s
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
15s
After match tv
upthetrin92
3
18s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41758
19s
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
193
20s
Todays match v Giants
Alffi_7
110
28s
This weeks disciplinary
matt_wire
1378
37s
Leeds away first up
BarnsleyGull
455
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bullseye
3
TODAY
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
TODAY
After match tv
upthetrin92
3
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
tigertot
5
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Bullseye
6
TODAY
Pele
Highlander
6
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
BOSS HOG
22
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
Alffi_7
110
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
294
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
448
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
731
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
509
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
327
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
593
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
786
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
787
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
837
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
769
Betfred Super League Season Se..
986
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
950
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1592
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1385
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1447
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield - St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
Sun 16th Feb
SL 1 Huddersfield12-20Warrington
CH 1 Bradford20-6LondonB
CH 1 Featherstone22-4Doncaster
CH 1 Oldham50-4York
CH 1 Sheffield14-28Halifax
CH 1 Barrow36-12Hunslet
1895 0 Goole V26-18Crusaders
1895 0 Workington10-18Dewsbury
1895 0 Rochdale18-16Swinton
1895 0 Keighley7-6Midlands
Sat 15th Feb
SL1 Leeds12-14Wakefield
SL 1 St.Helens82-0Salford
CH 1 Toulouse14-18Widnes
Fri 14th Feb
SL 1 Hull KR19-18Castleford
SL 1 Catalans4-24Hull FC
Thu 13th Feb
SL 1 Wigan0-1Leigh
Sun 9th Feb
CC2025 3 Bradford18-16Castleford
CC2025 3 Featherstone68-0Ince R
CC2025 3 Hunslet6-34Huddersfield
CC2025 3 Midlands10-46Salford
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
5m
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
38m
Todays match v Giants
Alffi_7
110
47m
Pele
Highlander
6
55m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Ellam
5056
Recent
Catalans Away - 14th Feb
Dave K.
357
Recent
Barrow at home
Miserybusine
37
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
3101
Recent
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
Recent
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
193
Recent
Sheffield away
Greg Florimo
30
Recent
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
Recent
Vegas - A travelling supporters guide
bonnie
10
Recent
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
tigertot
5
Recent
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41758
Recent
Film game
BOSS HOG
7878
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2s
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
3s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Ellam
5056
4s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
Trebor1
3101
6s
TV Games - Not Hull
paperboy
3297
8s
2024 l Academy Scholarship & Reserves News
rugbyleague8
234
9s
Leigh h
Phuzzy
101
10s
BORED The Band Name Game
BOSS HOG
65135
12s
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
15s
After match tv
upthetrin92
3
18s
Game - Song Titles
BOSS HOG
41758
19s
Leeds v Wakefield
christopher
193
20s
Todays match v Giants
Alffi_7
110
28s
This weeks disciplinary
matt_wire
1378
37s
Leeds away first up
BarnsleyGull
455
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Round 2 - Hunslet A
Bullseye
3
TODAY
Hull KR at home this Thursday evening
phe13
17
TODAY
After match tv
upthetrin92
3
TODAY
Vs Warrington
Murphy
2
TODAY
Who is available
Droopy
4
TODAY
2025 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 2
tigertot
5
TODAY
The Bench - Kris Radlinski
Mark_P1973
11
TODAY
Other Championship Teams
Bullseye
6
TODAY
Pele
Highlander
6
TODAY
lilley
paulwalker71
6
TODAY
Huddersfield H
RugbyEgg
1
TODAY
Wigan Warriors - Home
UllFC
27
TODAY
Goole Vikings
Rugby Raider
5
TODAY
Next week v Fev
Victor
5
TODAY
Warrington Wolves Off To A Winning Start Over the Huddersfield Giants
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Ronan Michael podcast
Bullseye
1
TODAY
Superleague
BOSS HOG
22
TODAY
Todays match v Giants
Alffi_7
110
TODAY
Salford
Another Cas
16
TODAY
Stats thread
Shifty Cat
4
TODAY
IMG
Deadcowboys1
6
TODAY
St Helens Record Highest Winning Margin In Super League As They Thrash Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Next round of Challenge Cup
Bully_Boxer
3
TODAY
Challenge cup draw
Big lads mat
12
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Warrington Wolves Off To A Win..
294
St Helens Record Highest Winni..
448
Challenge Cup 2025 - Fourth Ro..
731
Wakefield Trinity Mark Return ..
509
Hull FC Start Season With Big ..
327
Leigh Leopards Win Golden Poin..
593
Bradford Bulls Spring Cup Shoc..
786
Hull FC Overcome Brave York Ac..
787
Easy Cup Progress For The Rhin..
837
Easy For Hull KR against Valia..
769
Betfred Super League Season Se..
986
Thirteen Try York Knights Set ..
950
Comfortable Ash Handley Testim..
1592
Workington Town Set Up Leigh L..
1385
Historic Goole Vikings Win Ove..
1447


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!












.